Secession! — Page 4

TheBoost said:

Bingowings said:

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the 1850 compromise as much about land rights as slave legislation?

 A couple things, like Texas's western edge, and the Mormons not getting a big state (help me out Ender... was it The State of Desierta), were in it, but the vast majority of the decisions were based on keeping the Slave/Free state thing from exploding for another decade.

I believe you are right as to the nature of the creation of Utah Territory, which was originally to be called Deseret (a name that hearkens to something in the Book of Mormon, not desierta, which is "desert" in Spanish :), and which was a free state.

This thread has gotten interesting!  I had planned to share my opinion when I got the chance, but I think Tyrphanax has already covered it quite well, and he's clearly far more knowledgeable than I on the topic :)

You should give Time Travel a try.

You need to fall off a four dimensional toilet seat and bump your head a few times.

Its too bad Ferris is awol,  I would love to his reaction to what Tyrphanax wrote.   I'd love to see the two of them debate the Civil War. 

1990osu said:

I have clearly brought a knife to a gunfight.  LOL

I know how you feel,  I've done that in the political thread all the time.  

Warbler said:

Its too Ferris is awol,  I would love to his reaction to what Tyrphanax wrote.   I'd love to see the two of them debate the Civil War. 

Why are you always so fixated on Ferris and other people potentially besting him in a debate?

Ferris is a pretty big history buff himself, and the Civil War is one of his favorite subjects, he has a good deal of knowledge on that topic. I do agree though, it'd be an interesting conversation.

CP3S said:

Warbler said:

Its too Ferris is awol,  I would love to his reaction to what Tyrphanax wrote.   I'd love to see the two of them debate the Civil War. 

Why are you always so fixated on Ferris and other people potentially besting him in a debate?

don't know, perhaps because he has bested me so many times? 

CP3S said:

Ferris is a pretty big history buff himself, and the Civil War is one of his favorite subjects, he has a good deal of knowledge on that topic. I do agree though, it'd be an interesting conversation.

indeed. 

So where is your PHd in Civil War studies from, Tyrph?

Tyrphanax said:

bkev said:

What's this talk of a Civil War? It's the War of Northern Aggression to the aforementioned AWOL party ;)

 

Oh Christ.

So he's not so much a Civil War buff as he is a fan of revisionist history, then?

 

he thinks Lincoln was a tyrant.  

His cars aren't very good...and his penny is basically worthless.

*sigh*

Mrebo said:

teehee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNsYlnxSNcA