AntcuFaalb said:

I ask again, without snark: What proposal do you have (or can link me to) that provides for those in need without helping "abusers of the system"?

Because you asked without snark I will answer.. I really could not tell you. Our system has worked so well for so long the minority of abusers were not as big an issues. The mentality of America has changed for the worse, and once those realize they can get stuff without working for it, why work?

Like I said... that is what the liberal government wants. They want the people to rely on the government. That is where the power lays.

You will never see my side, obviously. I can't hang out all day and do this. I will leave by saying... I am a Veteran and have done my time protecting this country to preserve the freedom you have to disagree with me. This country is no longer what it once was, especially after what happened yesterday. Frankly I don't care what your opinion is on the matter. I hope it gets better, but seems pretty bleak now. Congratulations on your victory.