batmatt92 said:
Hey all, I never post here but I'm a big-time lurker.
Anyway, something I thought you all would find interesting- I'm a college student studying film and today my screenwriting professor (who works in the industry) told us he got a meeting with Disney to pitch for Episode VII. He said there were only a few parameters given, including:
Luke Skywalker must be included, but not necessarily anyone else from the existing films, and he must be age-appropriate for Hamill, who is 100% for sure in the movie.
Skywalker must have a new "Jedi Academy" that he has founded and oversees.
Disney/Lucasfilm are looking for a "dark" story. My professor said they're seeking out writers who have experience along those lines. They don't seem to care about experience with big movies, they just want writers who can do good characters with a serious tone.
Other than that, it sounds like the potential writers have free reign to come up with whatever they want. Apparently Skywalker doesn't even have to be the main focus, as my professor's idea centers on a new protagonist and Skywalker appears more as a supporting character.
His meeting is sometime within the next week or two I think. If he doesn't get the gig I can tell you what his idea was. :D
^^Wow. That is EXTREMELY interesting. Thank you for that insider info.
In addition, here is a link I posted in another thread that shows the composer for Episode 7 might be John Williams.
I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't. Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for.
I was just telling people the other day that "if the money was right..."
Be interesting to see more as it develops.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and John Williams are back and Luke has a Jedi Academy where he trains Jedi in a more serious, character-driven script.
It sure looks like they're off on the right foot!
I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't. Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for.
AuggieBenDoggie said:
You have the right to believe anything you want to.
Hey, I'd love to believe you, it's just that as an OOT fan, I've been so burned lately, and this news seems to have come out of nowhere and not yet have been officially reported, that I'm skeptical. I'd would love few things less in this world than to be wrong. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, you've just come claiming all my dreams may come true in the near future, and I haven't seen it officially reported anywhere as yet. If this is really coming in the near future, I'll be happy as can be. And if you're really telling us the truth, I doth my cap to you, and I hope for all of the best. I don't want to be confrontational, it just sounds way too good to be true.
Imrahil said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
I liked the Vong.
The idea of living beings that are not connected to the Force is ignoring the most basic "rules" of Star Wars. The idea of an enemy coming from another galaxy opens a whole can of worms and is too far-fetched for me to accept. So is living spaceships and the like.
I'd stay away from most of the classics of science fiction and space opera if I were you then.
Can't see the correlation.
Most of the classics of science fiction and space opera have organic ships and intergalactic invasions in them at some point.
If you find these concepts far-fetched you will not enjoy those classics.
You keep saying this. Let's see:
2001 - nope
Foundation Trilogy - nope
Dune - nope
Martian Chroicles - nope
Anything by William Gibson - nope
I mean, this is just off the top of my head.
The only thing I can think of at all that has these living ships you're talking about is stuff like Babylon 5 or Starship Troopers.
FarScape had a living ship. Starship Troopers the novel may have, the film didn't.
skyjedi2005 said:
Is there someone these days as good as Lawrence Kasdan in his prime when he wrote Empire and Raiders?
Good question, no one comes to mind, actually.
AntcuFaalb said:
Even if the new movies are objectively better than the OT, they will still lack that late 70s/early 80s aesthetic that so many of us love. :-(
Yeah, I agree that CG doesn't have the physical weigh of "real" FX, but we're sort of pining for horse and buggies here, I mean everything is done with CG now, that doesn't mean CG can be used well. I mean, lets face it, the era is gone. I miss it too, but so it goes. It hardly means the films can't be good.
bkev said:
^This. You definitely have to think about this when considering the sequel trilogy. It will suffer the same way many thought Prometheus did design-wise, no matter what. Hell, even the prequels did (and I actually rather liked some of the designs for the ships/locations [though not all, of course].)
I always think of Live Free or Die Hard. I like the it, but I think that the CG (and the director) gives everything such a cartoonish quality that it robs the series of the physical punch it had. Effects techniques and film aesthetics are just different now, you can shake the camera and nick your frames, but the world doesn't look like that anymore. As for Prometheus, it's the same. It's a beautifully designed film (albeit one with an incoherent screenplay, but that's for another time), but it doesn't have the grime that Alien had.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
1990osu said:
Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and John Williams are back and Luke has a Jedi Academy where he trains Jedi in a more serious, character-driven script.
It sure looks like they're off on the right foot!
Hell yes! If those script parameters are true, then we seem to be in for something that could very well live up to the OT in ways that the PT never did.
Tyrphanax said:
I was just telling people the other day that "if the money was right..."
Be interesting to see more as it develops.
Wow, that's a cool find. Now I'm excited!
batmatt92 said:
...His meeting is sometime within the next week or two I think. If he doesn't get the gig I can tell you what his idea was. :D
And if he does get the gig you will never see him again :) (unless it's on tv)
I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment again, but I can't help it! I know it's going to be good this time.
I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't. Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for.
So this was made... (caution strong language)
I think we can guess where he stands.
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Marketsaw is a reliable source, but they are not the only ones giving out that same news. I think Aint it cool.com has the same news also.
Thank you very much, wasn't aware of that. I hope at least the OOT rumor is true. Of course only time will tell.
Imrahil said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
I liked the Vong.
The idea of living beings that are not connected to the Force is ignoring the most basic "rules" of Star Wars. The idea of an enemy coming from another galaxy opens a whole can of worms and is too far-fetched for me to accept. So is living spaceships and the like.
I'd stay away from most of the classics of science fiction and space opera if I were you then.
Can't see the correlation.
Most of the classics of science fiction and space opera have organic ships and intergalactic invasions in them at some point.
If you find these concepts far-fetched you will not enjoy those classics.
You keep saying this. Let's see:
2001 - nope
Foundation Trilogy - nope
Dune - nope
Martian Chroicles - nope
Anything by William Gibson - nope
I mean, this is just off the top of my head.
The only thing I can think of at all that has these living ships you're talking about is stuff like Babylon 5 or Starship Troopers.
2001 might not have them but the monolith builders become organic spacecraft on their way to becoming stitched from the fabric of the universe itself.
Alistair Reynolds, Iain M Banks, Anne McCaffrey, Peter F Hamilton.
Put on hold Babylon 5 for a minute and list almost any television Space Opera and it will have at least one.
Battlestar Galactica, Lexx, Doctor Who, Farscape, Blakes 7, Star Trek.
Then you have films like Alien, even the remake of Invaders Of Mars has a bioship for crying out loud.
It's a trope that's employed at least as much as hyperspace.
If you aren't aware of it you obviously don't read or watch enough science fiction.
1990osu said:
Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and John Williams are back and Luke has a Jedi Academy where he trains Jedi in a more serious, character-driven script.
It sure looks like they're off on the right foot!
Yeah. I'm trying not to get all excited about this considering all the other times that bit me in the ass, but I can't help it hearing some of this news.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
Bingowings said:
2001 might not have them but the monolith builders become organic spacecraft on their way to becoming stitched from the fabric of the universe itself.
Alistair Reynolds, Iain M Banks, Anne McCaffrey, Peter F Hamilton.
Put on hold Babylon 5 for a minute and list almost any television Space Opera and it will have at least one.
Battlestar Galactica, Lexx, Doctor Who, Farscape, Blakes 7, Star Trek.
Then you have films like Alien, even the remake of Invaders Of Mars has a bioship for crying out loud.
It's a trope that's employed at least as much as hyperspace.
If you aren't aware of it you obviously don't read or watch enough science fiction.
Dude! - how could you leave out V-ger?
;-)
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Tuxsam said:
Is this reliable? It looks like they nailed the 3D releases.
Marketsaw is a reliable source, but they are not the only ones giving out that same news. I think Aint it cool.com has the same news also.
Mike O said:
Did they restore the OOT before the creation of the SEs? Where would they get prints if they didn't? Splice it together? Which audio mix would they use? How would they remix it? Where would they draw the line in the changes made prior to the SEs? Would they recomposite effects or use the old ones? Garbage mattes? Way too many questions. And who is SuperShadow?
Lucasfilm went back to the original negatives, cleaned it up, and recomposited certain elements, and made a HD digital masters for the 97 special editions, before any new FX work was added. Some of this has already been address by Rick Maccullum for the video release of the 97 SE's. All the original film elements still exist today, including the original negative, and it's still not to far gone to be used again. It can still be color corrected. They did it for the 97 special editions, and it can be done again.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLUdy3RDpM
The FX work was done digitally, That means the print was scanned into a server ( or some disc based system ) for ILM to add the new FX work. Then that was exported to the editing dept to composite and edit everything together digitally. Then that was reprinted on analog film.
The master copy for the OUT audio is in analog. All the sound elements were recorded on tape. Later on they were digitized. No one recordes a master copy soundtrack in Dolby, DTS ( now known as DATASAT DIGITAL SOUND) or SDDS. Studios have to contract out for that. The studio soundtrack masters today are recorded digitally as uncompressed audio files, and they stay that way through the editing process. And the soundtrack files are stored as uncompressed audio files for later use.
Mike O said:
I'm genuinely not trying to be an asshole or anything, but why should we believe you about your "sources?" Who are they? Will Harris be involved? Where would they get original film elements? This is so many years in the future, who's to say that it'll happen anyway? Who's to say that Lucas didn't put some sort of cast-iron clause in his contract to forever lock out the OOT? Especially given what's happened with the Library of Congress situation.
You have the right to believe anything you want to.
Any word on the other Lucas properties they've acquired? Any plans for the theatrical cuts of THX 1138, American Graffiti, or Raiders? Any idea when this is in the pipeline for release? Any time soon?
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
I asked about THX over at the HTF, and was told it probably resides with American Zoetrope. Universal probably retains AG, and Paramount keeps the existing Indy films.
Where were you in '77?
I read that 20th century fox still has distribution rights. Does that mean we'll still be denied the OOT on bluray?
"There's no cluster of midiclorians that controls my destiny!" -Han Solo, from a future revision of ANH
Bingowings said:
Imrahil said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
Alexrd said:
Bingowings said:
I liked the Vong.
The idea of living beings that are not connected to the Force is ignoring the most basic "rules" of Star Wars. The idea of an enemy coming from another galaxy opens a whole can of worms and is too far-fetched for me to accept. So is living spaceships and the like.
I'd stay away from most of the classics of science fiction and space opera if I were you then.
Can't see the correlation.
Most of the classics of science fiction and space opera have organic ships and intergalactic invasions in them at some point.
If you find these concepts far-fetched you will not enjoy those classics.
You keep saying this. Let's see:
2001 - nope
Foundation Trilogy - nope
Dune - nope
Martian Chroicles - nope
Anything by William Gibson - nope
I mean, this is just off the top of my head.
The only thing I can think of at all that has these living ships you're talking about is stuff like Babylon 5 or Starship Troopers.
2001 might not have them but the monolith builders become organic spacecraft on their way to becoming stitched from the fabric of the universe itself.
Alistair Reynolds, Iain M Banks, Anne McCaffrey, Peter F Hamilton.
Put on hold Babylon 5 for a minute and list almost any television Space Opera and it will have at least one.
Battlestar Galactica, Lexx, Doctor Who, Farscape, Blakes 7, Star Trek.
Then you have films like Alien, even the remake of Invaders Of Mars has a bioship for crying out loud.
It's a trope that's employed at least as much as hyperspace.
If you aren't aware of it you obviously don't read or watch enough science fiction.
You said science fiction greats. TV shows =/= science fiction greats. I read plenty of actual science fiction--of which Anne McCaffrey isn't.
When was there a living ship or galaxy invaders in Galactica?
Farscape? Sure. Hardly a giant in science fiction. Same with Lexx, which is basically low-grade porn. I don't know where you're getting that the monolith builders have "living ships," because it isn't in the novels that I read.
I've not read those other authors you listed.
Imrahil said:
You said science fiction greats. TV shows =/= science fiction greats. I read plenty of actual science fiction--of which Anne McCaffrey isn't.
When was there a living ship or galaxy invaders in Galactica?
Farscape? Sure. Hardly a giant in science fiction. Same with Lexx, which is basically low-grade porn. I don't know where you're getting that the monolith builders have "living ships," because it isn't in the novels that I read.
I've not read those other authors you listed.
The cylon ships are all alive.
If you've not read anything by Alastair Reynolds you're missing out.
Hoth-Nudist said:
I read that 20th century fox still has distribution rights. Does that mean we'll still be denied the OOT on bluray?
Fox wouldn't pass on the revenue... I think the OOT not being released was purely a Lucas thing.
Tyrphanax said:
I was just telling people the other day that "if the money was right..."
Be interesting to see more as it develops.
if han shows up in the next Episode (i hope so), he will die right away..that put some darkness, and urgent dangerous situation and storyline...and that's what harrison want..to kill Han once and for all.that's my guess.
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Sources say that restored prints of the OUT are in the works, so a bluray release is a shure thing IMO. And I personally hope the Disney restored prints are what the 3D versions are going to be from and not from the ones on the current bluray.
I won't believe this until I see them on the shelves. Not even a press release is enough, as then there is still room for a decision chance to occur and it not happen. Call me pessimistic but after so long this is where I'm at. Until I can buy it, and I watch and I see it is what we have wanted for SO long, I won't believe it. No matter how many rumours or from where.
Especially as George will still have a hand in LucasFilm as an advisor, I can't see Disney saying "we're giving the fans what you wouldn't" and him just kicking back not caring. Otherwise what was the point of the last 15 years?
RATLSNAKE said:
AuggieBenDoggie said:
Sources say that restored prints of the OUT are in the works, so a bluray release is a shure thing IMO. And I personally hope the Disney restored prints are what the 3D versions are going to be from and not from the ones on the current bluray.
I won't believe this until I see them on the shelves. Not even a press release is enough, as then there is still room for a decision chance to occur and it not happen. Call me pessimistic but after so long this is where I'm at. Until I can buy it, and I watch and I see it is what we have wanted for SO long, I won't believe it. No matter how many rumours or from where.
Especially as George will still have a hand in LucasFilm as an advisor, I can't see Disney saying "we're giving the fans what you wouldn't" and him just kicking back not caring. Otherwise what was the point of the last 15 years?
If they are still going ahead with the 3D releases, it would be believable that the Original prints were being rescanned and the SE elements are likely being re-tooled, so hopefully with the 3D Blu-ray release of the film we get the new scan of the OUT......please
J
SilverWook said:
I asked about THX over at the HTF, and was told it probably resides with American Zoetrope. Universal probably retains AG, and Paramount keeps the existing Indy films.
So, in other words, no :(.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
Imrahil I really can't help you any more than I have.
But I do suggest you read your 2001 books again because I presume you have them, you didn't nerdishly digest every micro detail and they are kind of fun.