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Just wanted to announce that sometime in the future when some other projects are done, me and DJ are planning to make our own color corrected versions of Terminator 1 and 2.

The only details I can provide you with so far is that we want to take the new Terminator blu-ray back to the original colors and then balance out the pink tint to get back the true original look.

The source of Terminator 2 will be the japanese blu-ray which doesn't have the heavy DVNR. That one's also a little bit pink and needs to be balanced.

You_Too said:

Just wanted to announce that sometime in the future when some other projects are done, me and DJ are planning to make our own color corrected versions of Terminator 1 and 2.

Ooh. Sounds interesting, You_Too. I assume the eventual product will be BD-50s... I eagerly await that project, as well as all the other ones you and dark_jedi are doing.

Cannot wait ! So much to look forward to !

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Ooh. Sounds interesting, You_Too. I assume the eventual product will be BD-50s... I eagerly await that project, as well as all the other ones you and dark_jedi are doing.

I don't know if it will be BD50, DJ knows that stuff better than me. I don't even have a blu-ray burner. But if it's the only way to preserve the full quality then I bet DJ will agree that it should be put on BD50's.

It's actually funny how many projects we come up with. But sometimes we simply do that to take our mind off Star Wars for a short while. It's been some really hard work.

You_Too said:

Just wanted to announce that sometime in the future when some other projects are done, me and DJ are planning to make our own color corrected versions of Terminator 1 and 2.

The only details I can provide you with so far is that we want to take the new Terminator blu-ray back to the original colors and then balance out the pink tint to get back the true original look.

The source of Terminator 2 will be the japanese blu-ray which doesn't have the heavy DVNR. That one's also a little bit pink and needs to be balanced.

Sounds awesome to me! Incidentally, the Japanese Steelbook Blu-ray of T2 is the one I have and it's light years ahead of the SkyNET edition. Hopefully some day soon we'll get a proper restoration of T2, but until then the Japan disk does me just fine!

@BDgeek:

Well I noticed the clipping issue while I was watching the movie with the Mono track. In the quiet sections the sound dropped out completely. Like, dead silence instead of the usual background noise you get in 'silent' scenes. Then when there was dialog or sound effects, the background noise suddenly came back briefly. It would cut in and out like that. But it wasn't anything to do with the track itself per say. If I muxed the exact same track into an MKV it was totally fine. It was only when I muxed it as a Blu-ray or M2TS that the clipping occurred. And no, there shouldn't be any loss of quality. Basically all I did was make the softer parts slightly louder, without affecting the overall volume of the track.

If you still need a MySpleen invite, I should be able to send you one. Just send me a PM and I'll generate one for you.

STENDEC said:

Hopefully some day soon we'll get a proper restoration of T2, but until then the Japan disk does me just fine!

Has there been anything announced about that? Because if so, we'll wait with that one.

Anyway, I've talked to DJ about the audio and just like you he said there is nothing wrong with the file itself. I'd say either it's the software you used for the muxing or it's your blu-ray player or sound system.

After listening to the muxed mono track from the LD, I'm kinda disappointed by the dynamic range. I believe by making the quiet parts louder, the track somehow suffered from it. Any way to get the original, non remastered Dark Jedi file, but still synced to the new Blu-ray?

Also I own the original Image DVD which has the 2.1 mono track, and it sounds great.

If I demux it and upload it on a sharing site, can someone sync it to the new Blu-ray? That would be awesome because it would bring all the different versions of the mono track up to date.

Stendec, is the file on myspleen not the old Dark Jedi file, but "remastered" by yourself? If this is the case, how much do we need to take out of the original Dark Jedi file to make it fit your synchronisation ? Cause 16s at the beginning doesn't work, it cuts of the orion logo sound and don't sync.

STENDEC said:

@BDgeek:

Well I noticed the clipping issue while I was watching the movie with the Mono track. In the quiet sections the sound dropped out completely. Like, dead silence instead of the usual background noise you get in 'silent' scenes. Then when there was dialog or sound effects, the background noise suddenly came back briefly. It would cut in and out like that. But it wasn't anything to do with the track itself per say. If I muxed the exact same track into an MKV it was totally fine. It was only when I muxed it as a Blu-ray or M2TS that the clipping occurred. And no, there shouldn't be any loss of quality. Basically all I did was make the softer parts slightly louder, without affecting the overall volume of the track.

If you still need a MySpleen invite, I should be able to send you one. Just send me a PM and I'll generate one for you.

Thanks for the reply STENDEC!

You cannot just slap the mono file in place. #1. the PCM from the laserdisc is not at an approved Blu-Ray Hz level. it'll clip, drop out, have distortion. You need to properly convert it. 

#2, the reel changes on the DVD are not the same as the BD. It is simply impossible to line this up at frame 1 and then just let it go. it will go in and out of sync throughout. My partner on this one is in the middle of it now and is making adjustments non-stop. We will likely end up making over twohundred adjustments. 

I muxed the file uploaded on myspleen with my Blu Ray of Terminator and had no sync problems or sound issues after burning it to BD-R. Thanks for the upload :)

Hello There,

I've ripped my UK blu-ray to my hard drive, it starts with the Orion logo and then the film carries on as usual.

I bought a US DVD with a view to syncing the AC3 mono track up to the new blu-ray at first I thought I'd got it working by removing the MGM logo and leaving a second of silence before the Orion logo kicks in but's it's been a bit of a disaster past the 16 minute mark.

Would one of you gents be kind enough to PM me with the fixed mono file that would be compatible with the new blu-ray?

Also a mate of mine seems adament that this new blu-ray is in some way edited for content. For me it's the same as it always was, but since you guys have studied the film quite thoroughly can you confirm or deny this?

I'd just like to say well done and thanks to Dark Jedi and STENDEC for putting in the effort and making it possible to make the original mono track usable for blu-ray.

Is there any site that I can download the mono audio that will sync with the original release blu-ray or the remastered, either one doesn't matter as the only difference between the two is the newer release has the new MGM logo and that I can work around.

Myspleen for the one synced to the new release.

I also have the un-synced 2.1 mono from the image DVD, and the unsynced french mono, so if anyone is interested, I'll provide links in exchange of you syncing it back to the new release, so that everyone can profit.

You can also found the sync'ed mix encoded in FLAC on the newgroups, search for "terminator mono"

Don't have access to the newsgroups...darn :(

I know this may be slightly "off topic" but does anyone have a special edition DVD from other regions that has these extras?

"Unstoppable Force: The Legacy Of The Terminator" (9:13)
"The Terminator: Closer To The Real Thing" (11:26)

They're apparently on the French, Holland, Scandinavia and UK discs.

The MGM have a lossy, crapping sounding 192kbps mono track. 

The 5.1 remix is not made from the mono. It just uses the dialogue and remakes all the sounds and effects and remix the music. It's a new creation.

I think the problem with the new synced track is it's too loud. I'm remastering it at a lesser volume for my personal use.

MrBrown said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

I know this may be slightly "off topic" but does anyone have a special edition DVD from other regions that has these extras?

"Unstoppable Force: The Legacy Of The Terminator" (9:13)
"The Terminator: Closer To The Real Thing" (11:26)

They're apparently on the French, Holland, Scandinavia and UK discs.

 

They are also on, at least, one German DVD release. I should have them at Home.