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Disney Acquires LucasFilm for $4.05 billion, Episode 7 in 2015, 8 and 9 to Follow, New Film Every 2-3 Years — Page 9

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“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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Anchorhead said:

Alexrd said:

To me, anything Star Wars related...has to come from his mind

Considering I'm the polar opposite - I only follow\own\care about Star Wars that is non-Lucas - this has the potential to be positive.

Abrams got Star Trek back to it's roots, so maybe Disney can give the world something Star Wars other than the twirling colors, small galaxy, children's films that Lucas turned them into in 1983.

 

 

Abrams didn't get Star Trek back to any roots I'm aware of. He made up his own version of Star Trek that bears only a superficial resemblance to the actual stuff.  If you meant to use him as an example to show that it's going to be "more like Star Wars," I think you failed.

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EyeShotFirst said:

Disney does spend a good deal of time and effort in restoring their films. Just count on Star Wars costing 2 times what it's worth in future releases.

 

Take it from someone who has purchased a lot of DVDs and blu-rays of the old Disney classics (my girlfriend is a big animated Disney fan) - they don't always do the right thing with their restorations. The latest and newest blu-ray set of Fantasia, while fantastic, has been tampered with, and still is edited - they refuse to release it uncut because of a certain controversial scene.

Their latest diamond edition blu-ray - Cinderella - was met with a ton of criticism because their remaster has lost a lot of the finer details originally seen in the film - there's tons of screenshots floating around the blu-ray forums. The general press thinks it looks great, but the fans know all too well how they digitally scrubbed it to the point that it looks like it's a Saturday morning cartoon, all bright and shiny instead of looking like a Disney classic.

 

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TServo2049 said:

IMO, we don't owe our continued existence solely to George Lucas' magnanimity. We owe it to the fact that we're small fish in a big pond. I don't think Disney's lawyers are going to care about us any more than Lucasfilm's lawyers (who I'm sure will still be in place under Disney ownership).

If someone wanted to to shut us down, they'd have done it a long time ago. I'm not losing any sleep over this.

Disney shut down a series of day care centers for daring to have images of Mickey and Donald in them. 

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  • Disney purchased “extensive and detailed” treatment for Episodes 7-9 as part of this deal which they “feel very good about.”
  • Disney long term plan is to release a new live-action Star Wars film every 2-3 years – films may eventually explore entire 20,000 year time-span of the franchise.
  • It’s Lucas’ plan to stay retired, but he will serve as creative consultant on new Star Wars films. Kathleen Kennedy will executive produce. Both are now sitting down with writers

 

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Lucas not only wrote an "extensive and detailed" treatment, but now he is in the writer's room as well.  And he will be creative consultant through the entire process.

Look at it optimistically- this looks exactly like the makings of another "Empire".  Lucas is involved, but not in total control.  He could redeem himself yet!

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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yoda-sama said:

Perhaps originaltrilogy.com should consider becoming a private, member's only site to help protect it from the eye and ire of Disney.  Lucasfilm was good enough to fan edits, but Disney probably won't so much...  What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Bad idea. It will just draw more attention and make it look like we have something to hide. We have not needed to hide up until now. To do so now would be a bad idea. Do you really believe private sites can't be infiltrated?

 

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This thread should be locked until ken comes back to give us his blessing.

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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Though it is now inevitable that we get Muppet Star Wars.

The blue elephant in the room.

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What if they get Steven Spielberg to direct?

 

*gasp*

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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Promus said:

What I'd just like to know is... does this mean Princess Leia will be a Disney Princess?

 

Yes, it does.

 

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TServo2049 said:

If someone wanted to to shut us down, they'd have done it a long time ago. I'm not losing any sleep over this.

 

I feel mostly the same way. Although I have to wonder, did Kim Dotcom feel the same way before he heard the helicopters?

 

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Troyig88 said:

my guess is there is going to be a 3rd Death Star.

Death Star Mark III - this time with absolutely no open ports!

 

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Oldfan said:

I feel mostly the same way. Although I have to wonder, did Kim Dotcom feel the same way before he heard the helicopters?

See my comment about us being "small fish in a big pond." My point was that the studios are chasing the Megauploads of the world, not us.

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That photoshop would work better with ol' Walt as a force ghost (replacing Anakin).

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The thing about this is that it's incredibly abrupt. It's not surprising, it's just unexpected that it happened today, without any rumblings. A sucker-punch.

But in terms of is it good or bad or will it make the OOT get released? I don't think it changes much.

If you loved the prequels, you could cry foul because "it's George Lucas' baby." But then you would be naive. He didn't solely write ESB, ROTJ, AOTC, and unofficially ROTS, and he didn't direct ESB and ROTJ either. He also didn't have anything to do with 99% of the EU, and he's been pretty hands off with the biggest two SW projects of the last seven years, which is Force Unleashed series and Clone Wars series. But yeah, he had a bit of input, and he's continuing in that capacity as a creative consultant, and based off his treatment ideas. So he's still in the same capacity to a large degree.

If you hated the prequels then this is great news. The prequels were good ideas for movies that were crippled by George Lucas inability to write or direct. This could be the best thing to happen to the series since 1980, and to be honest the acting, writing and directing of stuff like CW and Force Unleashed is pretty well done. So, hey, this could be the prequels you wanted in the first place.

And in terms of the OOT, it would be jumping the gun to make any predictions. My own feeling is that this could be the best thing, because Disney has always been kind to its classics, has always marketed itself based on its legacy, and with Lucas out of the way--he's a creative consultant on the sequels, not on the companies business dealings--there's really nothing holding them back. But then, with 7, 8 and 9 coming REALLY FUCKING SOON, maybe the OOT will take a back burner because they will be concentrating on these new films right away. Or: maybe not. We were always going to get the OOT, it was just a matter of time. Does this move that timeframe up or push it back? 50/50. But I would say it moves it up.

As for the end of fan films this is jumping the gun. Disney is harsher than Lucasfilm in the legal department, yes, but LFL will still retain a level of autonomy, and their fan relations are to a large degree built upon a mutual relationship, whether it's the 501st or whatever. That seems unlikely to go away. Things may change a bit, but I think it's foolish to say this is the end of all that. At the very least, it's up in the air, but more likely it will just undergo a bit of modification when the new management takes over. But from a business perspective they have a great thing going and it doesn't need to change, unless they start losing money, but they won't, and with the new films and business plan they have nothing to worry about.

But the point is this isn't really surpring, this whole move seems downright predictable, but the abruptness of it has thrown us all. But when you really break it down, there is as much pros as cons, and things ought to more or less remain the same, because it's too early to say otherwise in any case.

My two cents.

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According to the Associated Press,

The seventh movie, with a working title of "Episode 7," is set for release in 2015. Episodes 8 and 9 will follow. The trilogy will continue the story of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia beyond "Return of the Jedi".

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5isZzQ0Rv9bEkLNtP9TjI8lGu1h9A?docId=9ad81ca01a9e4246b0e719fb4e3a3b18

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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But as for canon (ie Thrawn), they say it will instead be an original story.

The blue elephant in the room.

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1990osu said:

According to the Associated Press,

The seventh movie, with a working title of "Episode 7," is set for release in 2015. Episodes 8 and 9 will follow. The trilogy will continue the story of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia beyond "Return of the Jedi".

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5isZzQ0Rv9bEkLNtP9TjI8lGu1h9A?docId=9ad81ca01a9e4246b0e719fb4e3a3b18

Wow, cool!

If they pull this off, then "my six" may be 4-9, as I'm not a big fan of the PT. :-)

As others have said, I'm cautiously excited.

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1990osu said:

The trilogy will continue the story of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia beyond "Return of the Jedi".

Recast or originals? I don't know which would be worse. It's disconcerting they plan on making this an active franchise with new movies every two to three years. With the exception of Bond (currently), all franchises that have gone in that direction get mired in terrible movies and lose respectability: ie. Halloween, Friday the 13th, etc.

bkev said:

They're also very hit-and-miss. Disney is infamous for modifying their films' color palettes to appeal to more modern audiences/children. And there's no grain to be found anywhere.

Problem numero uno.

adywan said:

their lawyers will be ready to pounce

on ot.com. Oh god! Problem numero dos.

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The way Disney has been phrasing this... "there will be more films"... it's not like they're even trying to convince us they care about the story.  The story ended at the end of Jedi, simple as that, but they say "more films" as if they'll keep making them until people stop paying to see them.  They didn't say "another trilogy".  "More films".  However many that means.  Star Wars will lose its identity.  But at least the original six will maintain their status, since they'll always be seen as officially Lucas' vision/ideas.

Honestly, I'm really worried about the scores.  A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

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rpvee said:

But at least the original six will maintain their status, since they'll always be seen as officially Lucas' vision/ideas.

Oh god, the prequels appreciated by comparison, egad!

A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

Well, ROTS had limited Williams participation because of how it was edited. It was either ROTS or AOTC that Williams never got a good final cut to work with/score. Still, no participation whatsoever would be bad. Hopefully, they don't jettison his work altogether and use... DANNY ELFMAN!

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

A Star Wars feature, live-action film without John Williams?  Unthinkable.

Well, ROTS had limited Williams participation because of how it was edited. It was either ROTS or AOTC that Williams never got a good final cut to work with/score. Still, no participation whatsoever would be bad. Hopefully, they don't jettison his work altogether and use... DANNY ELFMAN!

It was AOTC, I heard Williams didn't contribute much because he was pissed at how butchered his score for TPM was in its final cut.

Meanwhile, I doubt they'd flat out ignore his contributions.  They even use some of his themes in Clone Wars.  If a TV series can, feature films can.  I just wonder how much they'll pay attention, it could go two ways (assuming Williams doesn't come back):

1. They simply put quotes of the Force theme here and there, but otherwise have new themes everywhere (like Potter 4-8 did with Hedwig's Theme).

2. They actually look at all of his themes for all the characters and use them ("Luke and Leia", the Droids' theme, etc.).

Unfortunately, the first option is the most likely, more or less.

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Imrahil said:

TServo2049 said:

IMO, we don't owe our continued existence solely to George Lucas' magnanimity. We owe it to the fact that we're small fish in a big pond. I don't think Disney's lawyers are going to care about us any more than Lucasfilm's lawyers (who I'm sure will still be in place under Disney ownership).

If someone wanted to to shut us down, they'd have done it a long time ago. I'm not losing any sleep over this.

Disney shut down a series of day care centers for daring to have images of Mickey and Donald in them. 

If it's the one I recall hearing about back in the 90's, Warner Bros. happily supplied them with Looney Tunes characters to put on the walls.

Seriously, why don't they go after the creepy ice cream trucks in my town that have badly drawn copyrighted characters painted on them? I half expect to see Freddy Krueger driving!

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