darth_ender said:
A false dichotomy is not proof enough.
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Why must we choose between a child having all the rights of a born child, or absolutely none of them? Why not all the rights, or simply most of them, trumped only in a few instances? Arguments that state you must accept all or nothing of something are usually overly-simplistic. Only a Sith deals in absolutes ;)
Making the excuse that it is a false dichotomy is an interesting attempt to try to weasel out without actually having to address the subject. Mine was more of a plea for consistency. If you are going to call it murder, why suddenly remove this label "murder" in instances when it is fitting to you?
Abortion is murder! Well, abortion would be murder... but since the poor girl was raped... it's not...
This inconsistent.
I'm not a big fan of black and white thinking, I appreciate all the millions of shades of grey this world has to offer; so I am certainly not attempting to force black and white thinking on this discussion as Ender has accused me of. I'm actually attempting to remove the black and white by showing that even those here saying abortion is murder don't really believe that to be true and in reality see it just every bit as grey as the rest of us. Come on! Don't call something "murder", then turn around and justify that very thing under certain conditions.
If it really held the value of a real human child to you (and it doesn't), then there is no way you could justify its termination under any circumstances; no more than you could justify the execution of a 2 year old for even the most horrific crimes committed by his parents.