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The smearing is caused by an archaic system of dirt removal from the early nineties that is extremely outdated by today's technology. It looked fine on smaller CRT televisions for which it was intended, but the defects are much more apparent on HD televisions.

The reason it looks worse on this particular shot is because it's one of the 'crappiest' shots in the whole film due to generation loss with the numerous special effects composites. Even on 35mm elements this shot is full of dirt and grain - it almost looks like 16 or 8mm. So the dirt removal system kicked into overdrive in that shot and created those weird artifacts.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Yeah, that scene has always looked dirty/grainy, so I think that's why the DVNR reacted and applied such heavy smearing.

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Ok, a little update! DJ put some parts together today as a preview and uploaded it on myspleen.

Though he might remove it or update it later because it came out with a slight chroma shift again since this time it involved more render processes before encoding.

We're currently troubleshooting, but if you grab the preview it will still give you a good idea on the final look of our project.

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looks great! 

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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I'm supposed to be staying away from this site, but I've always been excited about this project.  Happy to see you're in the home stretch :)

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You_Too said:

Ok, a little update! DJ put some parts together today as a preview and uploaded it on myspleen.

Though he might remove it or update it later because it came out with a slight chroma shift again since this time it involved more render processes before encoding.

We're currently troubleshooting, but if you grab the preview it will still give you a good idea on the final look of our project.

Watched the preview. Obviously, this is gonna be epic, thanks for your work!

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Damn! I'm going to have to wait until tonight to see the preview, but I can't wait!

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Thanks for all nice comments. :)

What I forgot to tell you is that the preview includes all frame fixes we've done for that part, which is hundreds.

I can tell you a very visible one you'd see right away, just compare Vader's first appearance to the raw GOUT and look at his belt lights.

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DJ's snide comments in the post aside, I look forward to seeing this!

-G

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Envy is Jealousy's little sister, and she's quite the bitch.

 

Nice work DJ/You_Too.

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g-force said:

DJ's snide comments in the post aside

Where?  I wanna see!

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TV's Frink said:

g-force said:

DJ's snide comments in the post aside

Where?  I wanna see!

 

You're too late.  It's no longer on the spleen.

 

 

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TV's Frink said:

g-force said:

DJ's snide comments in the post aside

Where?  I wanna see!

how about opening your eyes.

it's not that hard to see.

 

later

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[no GOUT in CED?-> GOUT CED]

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negative1 said:

TV's Frink said:

g-force said:

DJ's snide comments in the post aside

Where?  I wanna see!

how about opening your eyes.

it's not that hard to see.

 

later

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How about using proper capitalization and punctuation?

It's not that hard to do.

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TV's Frink said:

negative1 said:

TV's Frink said:

g-force said:

DJ's snide comments in the post aside

Where?  I wanna see!

how about opening your eyes.

it's not that hard to see.

 

later

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How about using proper capitalization and punctuation?

It's not that hard to do.

make me!

 

later

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[no GOUT in CED?-> GOUT CED]

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Ok, now DJ has posted the sample again. This time it looks correct, without the chroma shift.

And don't be too hard on DJ. He was just tired of this project being compared to Harmy's, when it's obviously very different since we're working from the opposite direction. That, and he's working hard on his job, and on this and 3 other projects on his free time.

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TV's Frink said:

Oops, single post.

oops, negative post.

 

later

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[no GOUT in CED?-> GOUT CED]

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You_Too said:

And don't be too hard on DJ. He was just tired of this project being compared to Harmy's, when it's obviously very different since we're working from the opposite direction. That, and he's working hard on his job, and on this and 3 other projects on his free time.

This community does get a little weird like that sometimes especially with such high profile projects.  I'm glad that  folks like DJ, Ady, and Harmy do what they do because I know I don't have the skills nor am I known well enough to have the wonderful support chains that these folks have gained due to the time and work they've all put in.

My hat is off to everyone and anyone who takes on any project, no matter the size, because every little bit helps.

:)

 

 

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It looks very nice and excites me.  It makes me sad that Dark_Jedi doesn't come around anymore.  It was he who granted me entrance to My Blood and Thrombocyte Reserve (sorry, we're studying hematology in nursing right now, so the spleen is on my mind).  He did tend to get offended easily while using sharp words with others, but I appreciate his work.  While I love Harmy's efforts and mean him no disrespect, I really am very excited about this project which is IMO a truer preservation as it works from the original source.  Even if there are shortcomings in detail compared to the Despecialized movies, I can know with certainty that I am watching the original Star Wars films.  Harmy's work is wonderful and I am more than impressed with his skills and effort.  But as you said, it's two different directions, and the three on this team deserve a great deal of appreciation as well.

Please no one hurt me;)

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Don't worry darth_ender. I don't think anyone is gonna bash you for preferring a certain version. Everyone has different taste, but I too respect Harmy greatly for putting his heart and soul into working on his version.

Anyway, the rumor might have reached you guys that we're planning to release the 97 SE counterparts of each movie along with the restored originals.

The 97 SE's will be nicely upscaled using the TB version, and have the theatrical subs included. Since the colors are pretty screwed up in the 97 SE's, there will be a slight color correction involved but don't expect wonders. And there won't be any dirt cleanup since obviously it's taking way too long just to do that on the originals.

Here's how Mos Eisley will look in ANH, a few scenes we felt needed additional color correction. Before and after:

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You_Too said:

Don't worry darth_ender. I don't think anyone is gonna bash you for preferring a certain version. Everyone has different taste, but I too respect Harmy greatly for putting his heart and soul into working on his version.

Anyway, the rumor might have reached you guys that we're planning to release the 97 SE counterparts of each movie along with the restored originals.

The 97 SE's will be nicely upscaled using the TB version, and have the theatrical subs included. Since the colors are pretty screwed up in the 97 SE's, there will be a slight color correction involved but don't expect wonders. And there won't be any dirt cleanup since obviously it's taking way too long just to do that on the originals.

Here's how Mos Eisley will look in ANH, a few scenes we felt needed additional color correction. Before and after:

Will you two (lol, I made a funny....You_Too) be using the DTS audio for the 97 upscales?  THAT would make them a very welcome addition to everything that has come before.

:)

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Jetrell Fo said:

Will you two (lol, I made a funny....You_Too) be using the DTS audio for the 97 upscales?  THAT would make them a very welcome addition to everything that has come before.

:)

I don't remember if the cinema DTS audio was synched to this version (TB) or some other version? Otherwise DJ will certainly try to synch it so we can have all possible options. He will probably include audio from the LD's too.