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captainsolo
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James Bond 007 Thread
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Date created
8-Oct-2012, 4:10 PM

Baronlando said:

The end of THUNDERBALL still sounds weird to me. I don't know why it's so hard to include the U.S. version with the regular Barry soundtrack. 

Thunderball with John Barry's 'Deep Sea Rescue' end titles music - MI6 Community

I've come to the conclusion that either it's all the result of different US and UK mixes (which is unlikely) or an abandoned 70mm 6 track mix (even more unlikely). The CAV box liner notes mention the new mix was done as an alternate for Bond fans to spot all the differences. Every mix previously released was the original mono with TB ending cue.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

EyeShotFirst said:

What is really sad is the fact that I could've been editing all this time I've been waiting for the goldeneye blu ray. Now I've got to scrap using it as a source.

You may consider wanting to use an HDTV rip as the source for your edit. It has grain still and the best detail of the available versions of Goldeneye. The only downside is that its the cropped UE version.

Indeed. I've only seen a 720p version and it is the best looking version of the film despite the cropping (which isn't too far off from what could be cropped theatrically.) Great intact grain. Even more problematic is the restoration of the original soundmix which has to come from Laser for both Dolby and DTS. The SE DVD was reportedly mixed 10db too high for the LFE. But any of these trump the new remix which loses all that wonderful bass overload. Heck, even the surround downmix on LD is fantastic!

The problem with using UE transfers for projects is the scope of what was done to the image itself. Over on AVS they go into the application of fake grain layers to cover up the intense sharpening and removal of detail done by the processors. It may be possible to restore more of the original color, as has been shown on the half-hearted attempts on the recent BD issues, but I don't know if these will ever look the same.

The point made with NSNA is solid, as it and all the Bonds that were struck from video masters are more accurate to their original iterations than the Lowry 4K processed titles.