Star Wars 1997 DTS CD-ROMs (Released) — Page 7

does anyone know of a way to decode the raw files on Mac?

second question, is there not an LFE in the DTS mix?

rnranimal said:

does anyone know of a way to decode the raw files on Mac?

second question, is there not an LFE in the DTS mix?

To answer your first question....Switch.

To answer your second question please read this.....

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-1997-DTS-CD-ROMs/post/598542/#TopicPost598542

And this.......

http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/DTSSTUDIOMIX.pdf

I hope it helps some.  Google can be such a pain in the arse at times.....  :)

I found this little blurb for syncing the audio in Sony Vegas with Video....

the easy way is with vegas i think

put the movie on the time line and drop all the waves on the time line in thier respective channel spots ...

group all wav files together ..

hit control and drag the end of the audio so it matchs lenth of video .

fine tune and adjust as needed (turn off frame quantization for this)

save out new wavs , select render to mono wav (will save and auto name each channel)

rnranimal said:

does anyone know of a way to decode the raw files on Mac?

second question, is there not an LFE in the DTS mix?

I would suggest virtualization, except I'm not convinced the plugin works within a virtual machine. I tried Winamp 2.91 in Windows XP mode within Windows Virtual PC and it worked, but the plugin wouldn't and spat out an error. A quick online search of the error message showed some software won't work with Virtual Machines, something to do with certain processer features not being available or something (I forget exactly, as I just went and used a different computer).

Perhaps someone you know who has a Windows machine? The process of decoding them is actually very quick, takes a few seconds per channel of sound from each reel. I'd make a torrent of the decoded tracks in RAW PCM or WAV so those who don't have Windows can have a play with these files, but with my upload speed it would take a very long time to seed it.

CapableMetal, and everyone else who has worked on bringing this into the public sphere, thank you all!

Jetrell Fo said:

rnranimal said:

does anyone know of a way to decode the raw files on Mac?

second question, is there not an LFE in the DTS mix?

To answer your first question....Switch.

To answer your second question please read this.....

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-1997-DTS-CD-ROMs/post/598542/#TopicPost598542

And this.......

http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/DTSSTUDIOMIX.pdf

I hope it helps some.  Google can be such a pain in the arse at times.....  :)

at first i thought you were telling me to switch to PC :) Assuming you weren't, i tried Switch but am not having any luck. it tells me there was no audio detected in the file.

ah, that makes sense. i had read the post with instructions, but i knew i was misunderstanding something. it sounded to me like an LFE had to be faked by using the low frequencies from the other channels. that 2nd link clears it up, thanks! 

CapableMetal said:

rnranimal said:

does anyone know of a way to decode the raw files on Mac?

second question, is there not an LFE in the DTS mix?

I would suggest virtualization, except I'm not convinced the plugin works within a virtual machine. I tried Winamp 2.91 in Windows XP mode within Windows Virtual PC and it worked, but the plugin wouldn't and spat out an error. A quick online search of the error message showed some software won't work with Virtual Machines, something to do with certain processer features not being available or something (I forget exactly, as I just went and used a different computer).

Perhaps someone you know who has a Windows machine? The process of decoding them is actually very quick, takes a few seconds per channel of sound from each reel. I'd make a torrent of the decoded tracks in RAW PCM or WAV so those who don't have Windows can have a play with these files, but with my upload speed it would take a very long time to seed it.

thanks for the info. at the moment i only have wine installed on my Mac, so i'll start with that.

actually i do have a 5 year old Dell laptop in my closet. it no longer connects to the internet, so hasn't had updates in a few years. but i'll download the software to my Mac and take it over on a thumb drive and see how that works. 

Darth Mallwalker said:

For whatever it's worth, I used Linux + Wine + Winamp-2.92 (from Afterdawn)
Wine runs on OSX or so they say...

that's hopeful news. i'll try that next. thanks.

strangely i was able to import the files into Audacity and while what i got was an insane amount of distortion, i could hear the SW soundtrack faintly underneath. i tried numerous settings combos for the import, but none gave a proper decode.

rnranimal said:

thanks for the info. at the moment i only have wine installed on my Mac, so i'll start with that.

actually i do have a 5 year old Dell laptop in my closet. it no longer connects to the internet, so hasn't had updates in a few years. but i'll download the software to my Mac and take it over on a thumb drive and see how that works. 

You'll get it going just fine then! I first extracted them on my old Dell Inspiron from 2006 ;)

I've decided not to bother uploading any processed/sync'ed versions for ROTJ or TPM as many so many want to do it themselves (as did I in the first place!). I'm still going do them and keep tinkering (of course!) and share anything useful should I encounter it.

I've been able to get the plugin running under os x 10.8.2 with virtualbox, windows 7, and a 2.9.5 version of winamp just fine. So running it through virtualization should be an option..

http://i.minus.com/ibsrolxkz9jLuW.png

I am working on uploading TESB & AOTC ISO's as we speak....they will be available later this evening....maybe sooner.

:)

CapableMetal said:

rnranimal said:

thanks for the info. at the moment i only have wine installed on my Mac, so i'll start with that.

actually i do have a 5 year old Dell laptop in my closet. it no longer connects to the internet, so hasn't had updates in a few years. but i'll download the software to my Mac and take it over on a thumb drive and see how that works. 

You'll get it going just fine then! I first extracted them on my old Dell Inspiron from 2006 ;)

I've decided not to bother uploading any processed/sync'ed versions for ROTJ or TPM as many so many want to do it themselves (as did I in the first place!). I'm still going do them and keep tinkering (of course!) and share anything useful should I encounter it.

I'm still hoping you'll take a crack at all the ones we have that can be accessed this way....only one odd is ROTS.  ;)

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm still hoping you'll take a crack at all the ones we have that can be accessed this way....only one odd is ROTS.  ;)

I'm still going to do them, I was just thinking about keeping them for my own use. Its nice to see everyone is having a go at this, it means that we should soon have some nice mixes to work with.

I've been taking a look at ROTJ but until I've downloaded a few broadcast versions of the Special Edition for frame-accuracy comparisons its going to be hard.

The only change I can think they made, apart from shoving Hayden in, is the addition of Naboo to the victory celebration. Luckily its the last reel, but until we have a frame-accurate source then accurate sync may be difficult.

Any word on the availability of the ATOC and TESB discs yet?

CapableMetal said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm still hoping you'll take a crack at all the ones we have that can be accessed this way....only one odd is ROTS.  ;)

I'm still going to do them, I was just thinking about keeping them for my own use. Its nice to see everyone is having a go at this, it means that we should soon have some nice mixes to work with.

I've been taking a look at ROTJ but until I've downloaded a few broadcast versions of the Special Edition for frame-accuracy comparisons its going to be hard.

The only change I can think they made, apart from shoving Hayden in, is the addition of Naboo to the victory celebration. Luckily its the last reel, but until we have a frame-accurate source then accurate sync may be difficult.

Any word on the availability of the ATOC and TESB discs yet?

I am working on uploading TESB now....AOTC soon after, hopefully.  As long as all goes well....they should both be available soon.

EDIT:  Uppit is giving me some issue...uploads failed, I will try again tomorrow.  Sorry.

GOOD NEWS!!!!

TESB DTS ISO's are now uploaded.  They'll be making their way to the newsgroups soon.  I've sent out links to some of you who I know have been waiting for them....check your pm box.

:)

Thanks for the patience.

What versions are these synced with?

budwhite said:

What versions are these synced with?

They aren't synched with anything yet....it is just the audio.....

Jetrell Fo said:

budwhite said:

What versions are these synced with?

They aren't synched with anything yet....it is just the audio.....

 

I think Empire will be done in a few hours. Looks like I've got a frame accurate video sync source now.

I'm considering adjusting the levels on my mixes to be more DVD-friendly. After checking out ROTJ yesterday, its very loud and is clipping a fair bit, and have seen a couple of comments about it.

Once they're synched I'll make them available for the few who don't want to mess with these discs themselves. At the very least they can provide a reference for your own mixes ;)

I'm hoping to put the unaltered WAV's with an LFE track for each reel into a torrent for those who cannot get the audio from the discs. It seems unfair that some are missing out due to software/hardware issues with the plugin, hopefully this will rectify that problem.

borisanddoris said:

Wait, we have the entire OT?

Either way, giddieup!!!

We do now.....  :)

ElDonante said:

Hey,

borisanddoris did the rip using WinAmp and a DTS decoder, which decoded the DTS reel discs to wave.  After the audio was in a format that I could work with, I just adjusted the levels, spliced the reels together with frame accuracy using Audacity, then exported losslessly.

The fully detailed tutorial is in the thread, which lists the free and/or open source tools that I used, but the hard part is the manual splicing process.  You can use any tools that do the job, but this is the step by step of what needs to be done.

1) Decode DTS to WAV.
2) Determine the destination and resample the resolution and/or adjust the framerate of the audio (for instance, if the destination will be Blu-ray, then you'll convert to 48KHz resolution at 23.976fps).
3) Merge the reels together.
4) Edit out the duplicate parts.
5) Playback the movie while the audio is playing to ensure proper synchronization.
6) Export losslessly (to WAV).
7) Convert to your format of choice (there are free/open tools to convert to Dolby, but DTS is harder to work with.  I only use free or open tools, so I had to send it off to borisanddoris to be encoded to DTS, likely using the DTS Encoder Suite which costs a pretty penny).

8) Rip your video source.
9) Demultiplex the video from the container.
10) Multiplex the video from your video source with the audio from the DTS source.
11) Convert the outputted video to your favorite means of transport media (I prefer not to use discs, so I export to MKV).
12) Press play, crank it till you hear the horns pierce your eardrums, then set it back 2 ticks, and enjoy! 

This came from Eldonante.....I hope this helps people....

Jetrell Fo said:

GOOD NEWS!!!!

TESB DTS ISO's are now uploaded.  They'll be making their way to the newsgroups soon.  I've sent out links to some of you who I know have been waiting for them....check your pm box.

:)

 

Thanks for the patience.

 

there's one showing up on usenet that says "movie-only". is this not the ISO like SW?

btw, extraction with winamp 2.92 under wine in Snow Leopard is working

rnranimal said:

Jetrell Fo said:

GOOD NEWS!!!!

TESB DTS ISO's are now uploaded.  They'll be making their way to the newsgroups soon.  I've sent out links to some of you who I know have been waiting for them....check your pm box.

:)

 

Thanks for the patience.

 

there's one showing up on usenet that says "movie-only". is this not the ISO like SW?

btw, extraction with winamp 2.92 under wine in Snow Leopard is working

That may be msycamore's reference video you're seeing...anything audio only should say just that....