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Really, what really annoys me about him and those that share in his attitude is how they want it both ways. On one hand, they insist that their view is the one stared by the general public and that only a, "vocal minority," are the ones who spout hatred and venom against poor old Lucas. On the other, these same, "people," will bitch and moan about how TFN is the last place left where people are free to enjoy Lucas' saga in its fullest in a world/Internet that has turned against him.

So, which is it? Are you an oppressed minority or reflecting the general consensus? Honestly, I'm worried. These guys' health must being going to shit with all the cake they're having and eating.

 

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I'm sure they will get around to updating that when they issue them again in 2017.

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You can't even suggest to these guys that you can buy LONE WOLF MCQUADE for 12 bucks, so the OT isn't a big deal, they flip right out even while having no real response. So what do they want, with all this shrieking? Oh nothing major, just for everyone, everywhere to accept the good news of Sebulba Christ into our lives, or suffer damnation when all people and their google searches don't genuflect with the proper respect. 

We want to buy 3 old movies. So, clearly, we're the nutty ones.

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I agree with Puggo. Reading such stuff makes me so happy that originaltrilogy.com exists.

But bashing guys like that won't help either. He would only need to spend about 5 minutes on google to be proved wrong. Some people just can't accept the truth about Lucas.

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Anchorhead said:


The originals are gone, but the truth about them will never be. 

 

 


The originals are quite far from gone. They just aren't legally available in the best quality possible on current formats...

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'd like to see a debate between Obi-Rob and generalfrievous.

I'd buy a ticket.

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Can we add MikeO and Cryogenic for a roundtable.

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Only if they have to co-produce with a MS Paint authored lecture board on the identity of the Final MILF.

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Bingowings said:

Only if they have to co-produce with a MS Paint authored lecture board on the identity of the Final MILF.

Kickstarter campaign, here we come.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

(It hasn’t happened yet)

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The ultimate PT gusher thread at TFN was when I think her name was Rhonderoo posted, "Is ANH....meh?"

That sort of sums up the PT crowd that they talk about the Original Star Wars like its some boring movie and they don't understand the big deal about it. The best response was by someone from the Bashers Sanctuary, "ANH might be meh, but Star Wars is great." Great mocking of the fans that the movie was called Star Wars when we were growing up!

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"the OOT tea partiers at originaltrilogy.com"

link: http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=635

 

 

You know, I was just thinking to myself earlier today, 'how was it that I came across this ot.com'? Rereading this list (specifically the above link) reminded me that it had to have been Bill Hunt at TheDigitalBits, a site I haven't thought about in ages...

I'm kind of amazed how many Lucas partisans there are out there though. It's bizarre as I don't often frequent these sites at all...

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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Few understand that what Lucas is doing to the original three films is one of the sickest things imaginable: he is erasing history, and no one should be approving what he has done. Everything else, the prequels, the commercialization, even the Special Edition changes by themselves, are really meaningless points. The reason George Lucas is satan to me is that he refuses to give the OOT what it deserves: a proper DVD release. But he treats the films like second-class citizens when he released them as special features in 2006. The films that made him the billionaire he is today he treats with contempt, and that makes me sick to my stomach. I know I have said this more times than Lucas has money in his bank, but this is a point that cannot be stressed enough, and victory will not be attained until this wrong is corrected.

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Tyrphanax said:

Bingowings said:

Only if they have to co-produce with a MS Paint authored lecture board on the identity of the Final MILF.

Kickstarter campaign, here we come.

lol, I'd donate.

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bilditup1 said"the OOT tea partiers at originaltrilogy.com"

link: http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=635

That guy cracks me up. He patrols the internet for wrong-thinking articles and comments, fighting the Good Fight. But he never says shit to the actual people. He just goes back to his room/blog and screams into his pillow. And yet to hear him tell it, he's essentially Spartacus.

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Mrebo said:

 Correct me if I am wrong but isn't there a story that he has even seen Ady's Revisited and that he was not offended? In any event, GL was not saying all those things about fan edited films in the NYT article. GL was saying that if fans who hate him can rework his films, why can't they accept that he can also?

That'd be really cool, but sounds farfetched...anyone have anything on this?

Otherwise: I endorse movimao's and Laserschwert's statements. I'm not even a real regular here but I never felt anything but welcome, and mostly, surrounded by people more knowledgeable than I am (in a good way)

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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He's back. Someone posted screen grabs from the OOT and the blu ray.

The latest from obi-rob...

Things like that dont fool me. Sorry. You can put any image of any movie under a ridiculous magnifying glass with a smug, perfectionist, my-taste-knows-best attitude and make a case that which ever screen posted looks "wrong".

You just pulled the oldest trick in the book. Posted two slightly different images of SW next to each other and demonized the official, smoothed out one that George Lucas prefers. How original.

I think the OOT images look dated and fake compared to the official images. The official images match the rest of the saga much more.

I like the film how lucas likes it. Finished.

And FYI the 1997 cleaning and restoration process done on Episodes 4,5 and 6 was to this day one of the most meticulous restoration processes ever preformed on a film. The original negative was so aged and damaged so badly. The cleaning up they did saved the films. The Saga looks awesome in full 1080p HD on cable and blu-ray.

*sigh*

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But...the originals came first. Shouldn't the new movies match the old ones not the other way around?

Also real sets somehow look more fake than cgi created imagery (not even recent or anyting, but from like 1999-2005 (thats when the last one came out right? Dates arent my strong point)

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^ This has nothing to do with the thread title anymore, might as well start a new thread.  Please when quoting, post a link so if people want to get into the debate they'll know exactly where to go.  This guys got opinions, these kind of statements are what this community will be up against when the fan preservations reach this level.  Is it worth taking the time to inform or legitimize what we do here, you all make that determination for yourself.

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I still think the best thing Lucas has done isn't even Star Wars, writing The Satanic Verses was a much higher achievement.

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I don't see the fascination in the rantings of this person. He's spouting the same old talking points we've all heard a hundred times over with little variation. Rational arguments about film preservation and access just don't work with these guys.

People like this want the entire fandom to agree 100 percent with their narrow point of view, and that's not going to happen. Therefore, they can never be happy. It certainly can't be healthy to be that angry like that all the time. ;)

It's the people who don't realize what's going on with these movies who might still have an open mind these days.

Where were you in '77?

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To a certain extent, some of these people say those kinds of thingsv to convince themselves. CO has famously told a story from back in the day at TFN--and this is how insanely partisan, party-line-towing some people are--that he pretended to be a prequel fan and in private messages some of the harshest prequel apologist would tell what they REALLY felt. And guys like Cryogenic actually admitted, in writing, that they agreed the prequels weren't the greatest but felt a duty to defend it because it was Star Wars.

That happened to me too. Not to single out this guy again, but Cryogenic LOVED Secret History of Star Wars when it first came out, LOVED IT, he called it a masterpiece and had all sorts of positive hyperbole for it, and even helped me rewrite certain things. He appreciated that it put the films in new context and thought it was historically interesting to "pull back the curtain" even if it meant going against the official party line, and praised it to high heaven. Then he found out--or thought, I should say, since I am really not--a "basher." His tune changed. My arguments, which he was defending and reinforcing, were suddenly invalid, the book was a smear campaign, my opinions had all kinds of fallacies and I was a cancer to the fandom. NOTHING IN THE BOOK HAD CHANGED. THE TEXT REMAINED 100% THE SAME. It was the same text he was praising the week before. Later on I did make nips and tucks, but at the time--literally--other than his suggestions which I took mostly, nothing had changed. But what had changed was his perception of me. Thinking I was "one of them", I was now the enemy, and everything I said was cynical bullshit bringing down the fandom. Things that I would say that in the past he would see as constructive or merited were now further proof that I was just a basher looking to slander George Lucas. I think he felt like he had a personal vendetta against me because he felt "tricked", because he said some pretty nasty personal things that were entirely unmerited--and also ignored by the mods, predictably.

That has happened to me before and since, but this is the best and most specific example.

Not everyone over there is like that, but some of the harshest and most famous of them are, and more are probably truely like that than you would think. They don't even believe in some of the stuff they say, and they base their opinions on essentially partisan politics, regardless of the content and context of what the other person is saying. They are the real Star Wars Tea Party if there ever was one. I don't know why someone who is an adult would spend so much time online doing that though, I guess they have nothing else to do. We are at least spending time on constructive things and things we love.

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Who says they are adults?

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Only half-kidding, of course.

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Sad to say I've encountered variations on that mindset in my life. When I was very young, some fellow Star Trek fans actually turned on me because I dared to like Space 1999. For them, to watch or like any other franchise was somehow tearing down Trek. Had there been internet back then, there probably would have been a lot of mindless bashing like we have now.

This craziness even manifested itself again into people picketing in front of theaters showing Star Wars at one point. IIRC, no less than Gene Roddenberry told these fans to knock it off.

Where were you in '77?

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Hah, long ago Cryogenic flipped OUT on me over who knows what, complete with hysterical, rambling PM messages. It was probably right about the time he became aware I was here too, and hence UNMUTUAL to the church. (on a surprisingly related note, go see THE MASTER). So to answer the question in the topic, we are seen as really, really bad people.