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TV's Frink said:
Ah, nothing like a good old dick measuring thread.
"There's always a bigger dick".
TV's Frink said:
Ah, nothing like a good old dick measuring thread.
"There's always a bigger dick".
sunday256 said:
My projector is a bit old now, but at the time it was one hell of a bargain for a 1080p projector. It still looks damn good but DLP would be sweet.
Want a full hd 3d dlp next, some of them are supposed to be amazing.
Oh and frink and my dick's quite average but my balls are huge!
anyone looking into the new 4k tv's or projectors?
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Do we really need 4k at home? I mean it's not like it's giant screens like in the movie theather. (unless you're really rich) Is the extra detail really noticable on a home sized projection screen?
Note: I don't have much experience with 4K video, so I really have no clue how much better it looks compared to 1080p/2k
jero32 said:
Do we really need 4k at home? I mean it's not like it's giant screens like in the movie theather. (unless you're really rich) Is the extra detail really noticable on a home sized projection screen?
Note: I don't have much experience with 4K video, so I really have no clue how much better it looks compared to 1080p/2k
Probably not, but the future may bring advancements in technology to make it feasible; e.g., better compression algorithms, more energy-efficient televisions, etc.
If it's cheap and easy (it's not now), then why not?
Edit: Furthermore, consumer demand for "high definition" drives companies (and other institutions) to spend more on R&D. It's a win for society as a whole. (Also, those better compression algorithms for 4K may make our DVD-sized videos much smaller.)
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Well my problem with it is that you have to buy your movies AGAIN.
I suppose at least upscaling is LESS of a problem, since 1080 scales 1:2 with 4k.
jero32 said:
Well my problem with it is that you have to buy your movies AGAIN.
I suppose at least upscaling is LESS of a problem, since 1080 scales 1:2 with 4k.
depends..
if it was 2160p, then you would be right..
and 3840 x 2160 UHDTV....
there's a lot of definitions of 4k:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution
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Just wait and see movie studios pick the resolution that DOESN'T scale well from your blu-rays because it'll make you buy them again so they don't look like crap.
Sony 46" LCD
Oppo Blu-Ray player
Harman Kardon Digital Surround receiver
Various types of Jamo speakers.
We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
bilditup1 said:
We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all.
is there a noticeable difference
between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?
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The Griff said:
TV's Frink said:
Ah, nothing like a good old dick measuring thread.
"There's always a bigger dick".
"With a larger set of callused hands".
60 inch 1080p Panasonic viera plasma at a 6 or 7 foot viewing distance (we have a tiny apartment)
PS3 with stereo headphones when alone or the built in tv speakers when my wife is there too.
No surround (yet), but I live in a tiny apartment right now & it just seems impractical. I wouldn't be able to have permanent speaker installations which would drive me (& especially the wife) nuts.
My dream setup would be a high end projector on a 120 inch or bigger screen with a nice 7.1 sound system. In a custom home theater with a very vintage/art-deco movie theater inspired look.
negative1 said:
bilditup1 said:
We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all.
is there a noticeable difference
between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?
It's two more.
negative1 said:
is there a noticeable difference
between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?
If I may answer this, I'd say that it comes down to your viewing environment.
If you have a wide configuration, the additional 2 rear speakers (originally 1, as in 6.1, until they realized that having a single speaker directly behind you could often give the false impression that the sound was actually coming from infront of you) can fill out the rear stage somewhat.
If your room is narrow, then I don't think the extra surrounds are necessary. 2 speakers, evenly placed and calibrated will fill that space just fine.
I'm not a big fan of having the primary rears at the side of the layout, roughly in line with the seating positions, as is often suggested. This isn't compatible with 5.1 mixes and is less enveloping. I tried out this configuration for a few months at my old place before taking down the side speakers and going back to 5.1, which was much more immersive. At my current residence, where I've once again gone 7.1, I have all four rears behind the seating position (the 'sides' only brought forward slightly) and that works well.
I guess its similar to when people are forced to put their couch up against a wall and must have their rears on either side - its still enveloping but you never quite get the sense of the audio originating from behind you.
Anyway, that's my opinion. Others' may vary.
TV's Frink said:
negative1 said:
bilditup1 said:
We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all.
is there a noticeable difference
between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?
It's two more.
LOL frink :)
So I thought that my receiver would matrix out another two channels from 5.1 sources for me, but that's not the case. Practically, 5.1 tracks then will sound the same. Modern 7.1 soundtracks sound really, really awesome, as does All-Ch Stereo (or equivalent) and Dolby PLIIx, but I think, depending on the space you're dealing with, 5.1 might be enough.
I would definitely recommend my speakers to anybody looking for a bargain but want a step up over HTiB and have the space for big (in the case of the center, really big) speakers. Pioneer SP-BS21-LR (bookshelves, 4" woofer) SP-C21 (center, twin 5.25" woofers), SP-BS51-LR (floorstanding, triple 5.25" woofers). The new models just came out (22, 52) and supposedly outclass these and look nicer to boot, but likely won't be as cheap as these for a bit longer; on the plus side the 22 center uses 4" woofers and is thus a bit less unwieldy.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
The Griff said:
negative1 said:
is there a noticeable difference
between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?
If your room is narrow, then I don't think the extra surrounds are necessary. 2 speakers, evenly placed and calibrated will fill that space just fine.
I sometimes think of using the bookshelves somewhere else and moving the primaries back, instead of at the sides, as the way the room is currently set up the viewing area is kinda narrow (though that's gonna change soon enough). I think it sounds fairly immersive as is, but yeah, much depends on how big your room is, and at some point, the extra two become overkill. I haven't tried to listen to 7.1 tracks in 5.1 down there just yet though.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
bilditup1 said:
We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all.
And that plasma is just 720p, but I can't say it makes a bit of difference. I love the black levels and colors on these things. Viewing distance is 7, maybe 8ft away, but it's still quite nice if not overwhelming (that's what the sound is for...)
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
the thing is that probably only recent movies
have a native 7.1 soundtrack.. and unless you
have an awesome receiver that can split the
5.1->7.1 or convert it, you really can't take
advantage of it..
i'm sure that yes, it also depends a lot on
the layout of your room. my parents have a
huge living room with gigantic ceilings so it
might help them. i have a bedroom with
a lot less room to watch it in..
also there's the cost factor and time and effort..
i watch a lot of movies, and downloaded tv show,
but most only have stereo sound.. so unless i want
to invest a lot more money, for just a few things,
it might not be worth it..
thanks for all the comments, and details,
it's good to know what's out there when the
time comes.
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bilditup1 said:
I would definitely recommend my speakers to anybody looking for a bargain
I'll give you $10. :p
negative1 said:
the thing is that probably only recent movies
have a native 7.1 soundtrack.. and unless you
have an awesome receiver that can split the
5.1->7.1 or convert it, you really can't take
advantage of it..
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right, right - when you do get those, it sounds awesome, but in general, unless you have an amp that'll matrix the source for you, then meh, and if the space isn't *that* big then 7.1 is overkill. and in a small bedroom, of course it makes no sense to have even a 5.1 setup. it's probably worth putting together a solid 2.0 by hunting for cheap, old ampsand some nice speakers off slickdeals though. could even go for 2.1 if you get an amp with a sub out, like a TCA Gizmo (hard to found nowadays) but if space is an issue, you could easily live without this.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
TV's Frink said:
bilditup1 said:
I would definitely recommend my speakers to anybody looking for a bargain
I'll give you $10. :p
Sold! To Hubert Farnsworth's long lost great-great-great grand-uncle twice-removed
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
Yeah I agree, to which system you go for has a lot to do with the space you have around your seating area. The closer to the screen and the speakers the worse it looks and sounds. I used to fit av systems for a living. The 110" screen I use is the biggest I'll have in my front room. In the past I had bigger and it gives you the feeling of sitting on the front row of the cinema you just cant take the whole picture in. And with the speakers if your too close you hear the speakers if you know what I mean, I feel you shouldn't be able to pinpoint were each sound is coming from it should float around you. In my 6.1 system I do have the middle center speaker directly behind me but I have it's volume set very low so it blends better with the rears. It really can make you feel like there's a vastness to the space behind you. Lord of the Rings comes to mind as you do actually hear more with than without.
With the 4K I've read it can look like you looking through a window but only with native 4k material otherwise there seams not be not much of a difference between that and 1080p. But I haven't had the pleasure of seeing one yet.
At the moment...
Sony 28" tv
Panasonic DV575A multi region dvd player
Toshiba SD 2109 multi region dvd player
Yamaha AX V350 DTS 5:1 Reciever
Sony SLV-SE740 VHS player
any pictures of peoples setups?
would be nice to see them also..
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