STAR WARS - Special Widescreen Edition (Technidisc) (Released) — Page 9

With all my talk of incorrect aspect ratio... when I did the correction on the Technidisc I noticed that it almost perfectly match the 2004 DVD for the most part when I resize that transfer to 704x480, I also noticed that the GOUT-print is pretty badly warped, the distortion is worst in the left part of the frame, anyway what's interesting is that I also discovered that the lightsaber shot in Ben's hut in the GOUT transfer is vertically stretched or horizontally squished, it seems to me that they spliced in that part from a different source, probably because of the "split-saber syndrome" in the '93 transfer we talked about earlier in the thread.

Can someone please post this frame:

from the '95 "Faces" transfer, I'm just curious to know if the GOUT source actually match the "Faces" release rather than DC.

Don't own any Face LD myself.
There's dark_jedi's preservation from 2005

Thanks D_M! :) Any 4:3 letterbox DC preservations out there? or maybe someone could grab that frame from the actual LD?

Thanks none! I can't see all of them. :( Hmm... if the one that do show up is from the DC LD, then the "split-saber syndrome" was maybe only something the earlier pressings were affected by, I posted this frame from Dr Gonzo's preservation earlier in the thread:

The frame has been resized by imageshack I believe, hence the weird look of it. Anyway, I think he did the early pressing and as can be seen the stain/dirt isn't there, (if he didn't clean it that is).

none said:

Only posted one image.  It seems images.google.com find similar image autoprocessing is adding those extra box 'images'.  Off to the bug thread.

Oh, I see. Thanks for digging up that frame. Does that transfer also show these split saber artifacts caused by excessive DVNR?

msycamore said:

With all my talk of incorrect aspect ratio... when I did the correction on the Technidisc I noticed that it almost perfectly match the 2004 DVD for the most part when I resize that transfer to 704x480, I also noticed that the GOUT-print is pretty badly warped, the distortion is worst in the left part of the frame, anyway what's interesting is that I also discovered that the lightsaber shot in Ben's hut in the GOUT transfer is vertically stretched or horizontally squished, it seems to me that they spliced in that part from a different source, probably because of the "split-saber syndrome" in the '93 transfer we talked about earlier in the thread.

Can someone please post this frame:

from the '95 "Faces" transfer, I'm just curious to know if the GOUT source actually match the "Faces" release rather than DC.

I noticed this a few weeks ago while trying to come up with the minimal cropping needed for GOUT. Is this the only scene with this defect?

AntcuFaalb said:

I noticed this a few weeks ago while trying to come up with the minimal cropping needed for GOUT. Is this the only scene with this defect?

I actually don't know, I just happened to stumble upon this one as it was one of the parts in the Technidisc transfer that was in need of AR-correction.

Here's a color correction test I did on it a few weeks ago:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/nt80g3

A vast improvement but still not happy with it, might need to go into RGB color space if I'm going to get satisfactory results. Haven't worked on this lately as I'm occupied with THX whenever the time allows it. I think I'll junk the sharpening applied on my test samples for my final encode as I wasn't happy at all with how it looked on my CRT-TV, looks better at first glance but then you realize you've just added a fake sense of detail, looks artificial, at least on my CRT but looks pretty good on my LCD-screen though. I'll however need to get rid of those horrible lobster faces. One thing I find very troublesome with regards to hues and timing is that even if the clips look ok on your calibrated PC monitor, the calibrated TV sometimes show you something different. I recently realized this when going through my settings on the THX 1138 LD. :(

I did however notice that this shot seems vertically stretched in the 2004 DVD:

or should I say it seems squished in the original as the 2004 is a fresh scan from the negative and is likely more accurate, the '97SE source I checked matched the GOUT and Technidisc, haven't investigated this further and I'm not entirely sure about this one yet.

none said:

Nope

 Thanks for confirming!

Sorry to hear that, ator. I'm unable to seed this myself as I lost the files in a HD-crash a few months ago. So I can only recommend getting it from usenet or waiting for me to upload the 2nd version.

An improved one should be ready for upload quite soon, but I cannot say exactly when at the moment.

The 97s have this really weird smearing going on though, so everything has motion trails.

It's kind of like watching a 70s soap or something.

msthec1 said:

now need to get a hold of rotj then i would be in heaven

Regarding the weird AR scene(s) mentioned earlier: I have a fully-automated method to find these. Would anyone be interested in the results for each of the GOUT DVDs?

The fully-automated method is just a mixture of AviSynth's AutoCrop (modified to set the fopen(3) mode to append) and a Perl script.

Darth Mallwalker said:

You're interested in ROTJ then msycamore probably isn't the one to ask ;-)

Yeah, I'm not a big fan but I do actually own a GOUT-copy of it, albeit not purchased ;)

msthec1, this thread is aimed for the SWE LD which is the '81 re-release version, not the SE LD's. You might want to check this thread instead: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/LeeThorogoods-PAL-LaserDisc-Preservation-Project-97-SE-Finished-95-THX-Finished-97-SE-Uploaded-95-THX-Uploaded-to-the-newsgroup/topic/11824/

AntcuFaalb said:

Regarding the weird AR scene(s) mentioned earlier: I have a fully-automated method to find these. Would anyone be interested in the results for each of the GOUT DVDs?

The fully-automated method is just a mixture of AviSynth's AutoCrop (modified to set the fopen(3) mode to append) and a Perl script.

Sounds interesting. I'm sure that might come in handy for some if it works.

^ I take it you weren't happy with my tweak? Yes, I've found a satisfying balance by setting the black and white points more accurately.

On an unrelated note I recently found a mint copy of JSC ESB cheap, what was interesting is that it have slightly different framing/cropping compared to Arnie.d's X9-capture on some reels, you have to wonder how many damn pressings did they actually do of all these films. I intend to preserve it at some point, here's a color corrected sample: http://www.sendspace.com/file/nljqnk