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The Empire Strikes Back IMPERIAL "AUDIOPHILE" EDITION - Restored & Remastered Score - J. Williams & LSO (Released) — Page 9

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penguinofgreatness said:

jacksbrain, are the new files up yet? If so I would like a pm. Oh, and negative1, only the video version of this set is on myspleen. Not the audio version.


oops. you're right. i thought it was the same,

and you could just extract the audio...

later

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Yeah, they're not exactly the same.
Post 14 in this thread describes some difference

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Two things:

1) You have in the IE DVD post 1 (or on the backcover) all the detail: film version cut / or not. It doesn't entirely match with the current SET 2 then. Great for the DVD, but for a CD listening experience you'll curse me for sure, haha !

2) The PCM audio has been converted from 44,1Khz to 48Khz. Sure that a new convertion to 44,1Khz will mess up the tracks.

Note: only "Losing a Hand" has been left as edited for the film on Set 2. I think it really gives a better cue. It misses only two tiny bits that are welcome out, and the editing between the many segues is better done (more dynamic) than on the original.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Guys, I'm sorry for this delay but it's gonna take still some days, because... there's a big surprise coming!

The wait is gonna worth it! XD

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Hello :) Can anyone send me the links to the Sets I'd really like to hear them :)

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Marctraider said:

Hello :) Can anyone send me the links to the Sets I'd really like to hear them :)

Jacksbrain said there is a big surprise coming and I'm sure it will be worth the wait ;)

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Heh I suppose so :)

 

So this project, does it only involve The ESB or also A new Hope and Return of the Jedi? I guess only ESB. I haven't followed this topic in the recent years but my guess is that this audio/music is different from the Ultimate (2cd) complete versions of the first three episodes?

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Marctraider said:

Heh I suppose so :)

 

So this project, does it only involve The ESB or also A new Hope and Return of the Jedi? I guess only ESB. I haven't followed this topic in the recent years but my guess is that this audio/music is different from the Ultimate (2cd) complete versions of the first three episodes?

 

Only ESB. In a previous project, which also does a lot of good for the source material IMHO, he dealt with Star Wars and Return of the Jedi (see my sig).

I'm sure by 'Ultimate (2cd) complete versions' you mean the RCA Victor sets from 1997 that Sony rereleased in 2004. The only film that got a released called 'the Ultimate Edition' was The Phantom Menace, and that release was widely panned.

The music presented here is slightly more complete than the RCA Victor Special Edition releases, and uses a whole bunch of sources - the RSO CDs, the RSO LPs, the Anthology box set, and even the NPR Radio Drama. Just as important, ABC chose the best version of every cue and sometimes even overlayed parts of one recording over another, to get the most natural, nuanced kind of sound. 

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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Hi guys, so here are the "news" that most of you already know XD:

 

THE EMPIRE STRIKES STRIKES Imperial "Audiophile" Edition - 2012 Update


ABC had been reviewing his work for the IAE, and improving it! So now he has finished a 2012 version that surpases his previous works. The technical stuff is better explained by him than me nooby XD:

 

"*** THE EMPIRE STRIKES STRIKES Imperial "Audiophile" Edition - 2012 Update ***

the previous uploaded version of the IAE has not been such an improvement at all next to the older AE ("Audiophile" Edition)... but rather a mess.

The choice for a slightly warmer and less aggressive sound was good but the way it has been done wasn't... Mainly:

1) A badly set DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) can really spoil such a work.
2) The new equalizations lacked of subtlety, mostly weakening the sound and its range.
3) The further balance corrections/compensations were not necessary and often weakened the dynamics too.
4) The few speed & pitch corrections previously done in 16-Bit, and without real time dithering messed up the tone of the tracks.

... plus, a few mistakes, like an unspotted wrong speed (Yoda's Entrance), a wrong one (Mynock Cave, OST part - that had to be left untouched, instead of owing on the SE wich has an altered speed on this part), or ones to be done with more precision (Duel/Clash Of Lighsabers) are other details that diserved a closer attention.

Listing all the improvements and corrections finally brought to this new Set would be too much useless informations. Just rest assured it has been much more correctly processed back from the AE material. Only the very first track have been taken back from the earlier OE3 (Optimum Ed.), the only track to be here slightly clipped on a few fractions of a second but still the best version I ever made of this one.

Many tracks have been now processed in 24-Bit  to preserve the quality, many of the new equalisations on the session transfers have been revised more subtlely, the stereo is back to the AE version for the OST and overlayed mixes overall, and revisiting many noticeable cuts from the sources the editing is now as perfect as it can be done from these.

One track is worth mentioning for it's new editing on Set 2: Swamps Of Dagobah (Crash Landing). It's still complete but has now the film timing break at around 2'00", and I suspect the teams who worked on either the Anthology or the SE edited it merged without the silence just because they couldn't know it. I may mistake, but remember I have been sent the complete hand-written cue sheets from J Williams and that cue was missing...! It makes much more sense with that short silence in place.

Otherwise, the Arts remain untouched, tracklists are the same.

Purpose of the different sets:

- SET 1: The Complete Cue Archival Collection, for "completists".
- SET 2: The Original Score, as written for the film, with film timing suites (not film editing).
- SET 3: The Original Album, restored and completed, gathering all the highest range OST/overlayed mixes.

- SET 3 Bonus: The Imperial Edition DVD (not updated), the Original Score reconstructed and completed against the motion picture.

-ABC"

 

I'm gonna send links for all the three sets to the people interested. Do whatever you want with them, share them, burn it, listen them, ... use them as a present for the next father's day, or simply don't download them if you are good with what you have! Although I'd prefer if you don't publish them openly, cause it's better for everyone if they stand for some months instead of days XD

 

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Wow thanks!

 

I'm in for the links :) Very appreciated!

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Glad that jacksbrain finally spilled the beans :)

ABC sent a few people the sets (myself included) and I am now seeding it on myspleen w/free leech for a week. Come on, come all! (Ask walking_dork or Dark_Jedi for an invite)

Thanks to jacksbrain for his upload of set 3, as ABC's original link expired before I could get it.

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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Is the Imperial Edition DVD going to be updated to reflect the improved sound quality?

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ChainsawAsh said:

Is the Imperial Edition DVD going to be updated to reflect the improved sound quality?

The Imperial Edition DVD was released last year, so no. I have not heard of plans for a re-release either; on the contrary, ABC specifically said that the old release would stay the same.

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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This update sounds terrific.  I would love to get the links for this updated version.  Would it also be possible to upload this to alt.binaries.starwars, as a possible alternative?  If not, the links will be just fine.  Thank You to anyone who could help!

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I actually just bought newsgroup access again yesterday, but I don't know how to use it yet...

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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Thx bilditup1 but jacksbrain was able to send me the links to the downloads.  Thank you very much jacksbrain.  I appreciate it.

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Question: I'm getting a "Bad data from tracker - bad encoded data" message from Myspleen. What am I doing wrong?

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Am I too late to ask for the links for this new version? Thanks in advance. :)

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I'm a few weeks late to the party, but if possible could someone please PM me links?  Can't wait to hear this......

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Could someone please PM me link(s) to FLAC version of this Imperial Audiophile Edition? Would much appreciate.

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Can someone PM me the links also? I'd love to hear it!

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I have the old 2010 abc audiophile version of this incredible reconstruction.

i would  like to listen to this update to compare it on my harman kardon,  please pm me links, much appreciated

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I have no idea if the link are still up. I suggest you PM walkingdork to get a spleen invite

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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@bilditup1

thank you i will ask him

 

if anyone has direct links please pm me