Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal — Page 61

Brooks said:

negative1 said:

most people have families, careers, and real life to worry about.

 

i don't have anything, or any of those to worry about..

i live in an empty vacuum. (with some air)..

I'm sorry to hear that :(

that's ok.. i have plenty of 'star wars' stuff right now

to keep me company.

i'll get back to the women (or at least the

one i know) ha ha..

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/ wine / dance / song when

i'm done.. which, hopefully will be really

soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i'm done.. which, hopefully will be really

soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?!

AntcuFaalb said:

i'm done.. which, hopefully will be really

soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?!

definition:

soon = done when it's done

and not before.

haha

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negative1 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

i'm done.. which, hopefully will be really

soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?!

definition:

soon = done when it's done

and not before.

 

haha

 

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Don't get all pedantic with me, mister! :-D

pittrek said:

negative1 said:

i would think 20th century fox.

 

anyways, you can't just go around dealing with copyrighted material

in this manner, and then releasing it when you're in the industry.

i'm sure he would be blacklisted and all sorts of legal repercussions.

 

since we're (mostly) anonymous in ours, we do have some risk.

but i'm willing to take it on. because this is too important an issue

for me..

 

most people have families, careers, and real life to worry about.

 

i don't have anything, or any of those to worry about..

i live in an empty vacuum. (with some air)..

so even if i get taken out, nobody else will get into trouble

i don't mind taking the hit.

 

besides, it's not like i have a martyr complex.

there's plenty of people on this board that

have taken grave risks to get material out,

and their own versions released, etc.

 

 

i just like finishing projects that i started. 

it's an OCD thing, i think.

 

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We all are VERY grateful that you take this risk ! :-)

that's ok,

i'll be dragging all of you down with me,

when the cops come knocking!!! ha ha

just kidding...

i think..

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double the width

Those scans look great! It must be a special edition print based on the DTS time code present.

If you wish to learn more about anamorphic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_format

negative1 said:

more  test shots cleaned up from

the red test reel:

 

the conclusion of the trash compactor scene:

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https://vimeo.com/49303294

 

pw: OT

 

ben deactivates the tractor beam and leia

acts like a princess:

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https://vimeo.com/49303544

 

pw: OT

 

 

is anyone checking these out?

 

i've posted quite a few lately,

but haven't heard anyone say anything.....

 

 

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

 

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Ok ;)

Hey look there's actual blacks and darkness in the image without everything being crushed!

You can easily see the amount of pink shift in the second clip from the skin tones, wall color of the DS (greenish) and the tractor beam power indicator.

Still it says something when a pink shifted reel is 1000% preferable to a single frame of the official BD. I'd watch and love a whole faded, scratched, cropped, beat to hell, torn, water damaged, burned, mold infested print before I'd watch the BD.

I made copies of the PG for backup and have showed it to numerous people. The difference is quite apparent-even to the un-initiated. The fact that the SE prints had such good color and printing and then we get everything reduced to this putrid 2004 mess is inexcusable.

As far as the grindhouse versions, I'd think that the best idea would be to leave it wholly uncropped and reveal the entire frame. Those of us who are viewing these aren't going to care about the inherent quality anyway as we've probably seen far worse. Also this would probably be the best way to see the different ways to perform the overall 2.35 crop points for the final version.

Again, I really like that this version is retaining the blown out, hard light, high contrast look of the movie. This is going to be incredible to see all the way through!

Brooks said:

Doubling the width seemed to do the trick.  Does this look right?

https://picasaweb.google.com/106564773224485847205/September132012?authuser=0&feat=directlink

(the forum seems to be cropping them on the right, at least on my screen, they must be too long)

very nice..

i think the max width is 720 pixels.. that's what

i did to them.

or you might just want to point to a thumbnail if it's

that wide..

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captainsolo said:

 

Ok ;)

Hey look there's actual blacks and darkness in the image without everything being crushed!

You can easily see the amount of pink shift in the second clip from the skin tones, wall color of the DS (greenish) and the tractor beam power indicator.

Still it says something when a pink shifted reel is 1000% preferable to a single frame of the official BD. I'd watch and love a whole faded, scratched, cropped, beat to hell, torn, water damaged, burned, mold infested print before I'd watch the BD.

I made copies of the PG for backup and have showed it to numerous people. The difference is quite apparent-even to the un-initiated. The fact that the SE prints had such good color and printing and then we get everything reduced to this putrid 2004 mess is inexcusable.

As far as the grindhouse versions, I'd think that the best idea would be to leave it wholly uncropped and reveal the entire frame. Those of us who are viewing these aren't going to care about the inherent quality anyway as we've probably seen far worse. Also this would probably be the best way to see the different ways to perform the overall 2.35 crop points for the final version.

ok, good to know someone has comments..

well i wouldn't go too far with these prints, they're

more of a curiosity and historical record, than the

ones to showcase the movie.. i think it's good to

have a few different versions floating around because

of the appeal of the different types to different people.

did anyone notice anything different when the pictures

are uncropped. does it seem that way to you?

if you didn't notice it before, you probably won't notice

it after either..

oh and another one:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/cleaning-up-dirty-frames-for-scenes/post/595594/#TopicPost595594

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jero32 said:

The edges...well I checked and occasionally it seems you could see the edge of the other frames. Didn't notice anything too odd. But then again i'm not nearly as familair with these films as some of you guys are.

 

edit: wait, seems the edges arent entirely 100% straight. They have these little "hills" sticking out on top of them a little bit. Very subtle.

it should be more noticeable than that..

there's a lot lost to the cropping..

some of the shots look very different from the

standard GOUT ones, with almost 20% being cut..

look at this for example..

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lot more here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cropping-the-Original-Trilogy-35mm-vs-dvd-gout/topic/13945/

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TServo2049 said:

I thought we determined that those cropping diagrams were not accurate due to the way the image is warped in the GOUT transfer not correctly lining up with the red reel transfer.

I always based my comparisons solely on what was at the edges of the image, without doing any warping to match the two sources to each other.

i'm not using the cropping diagrams.

this is a just a straight dump of the image

from the DVD VOB file, against the frame captures

we have.

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TServo2049 said:

negative1 said:

i'm not using the cropping diagrams.

 

this is a just a straight dump of the image

from the DVD VOB file, against the frame captures

we have.

 

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I didn't mean the diagrams you showed in that thread, I meant that your raw-to-GOUT comparisons are likely inaccurate. I just can't believe that isolated shots would be cropped that close. It doesn't match with my findings on how reel 3 was cropped.

My point was, I don't try to overlay images when I do my comparisons. I just try to find the edges of each transfer and draw them onto the raw frame. That way, I don't have to worry about the warping/distortion of the transfers. (As I said, I think the GOUT has a "curve" to the image, with the picture starting to get narrower on the sides.)

Do you have a test clip containing that scene with Ben walking down the hall?

i'm posting it as we type.

will have the link up shortly.

it would be good to do a comparison if

you could that would be great.

also, haven't checked it against the bluray

to see if more is lost there also..

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(edit : it's up now:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/cleaning-up-dirty-frames-for-scenes/post/595671/#TopicPost595671

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