Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 237

Good luck, Harmy.

Harmy

I'm indebted to you for all the fine work you've done on this, as well as, the first versions of the despecialized films. (I think we all are)

Good luck on your exams and Happy belated Birthday!!

SithTrooper said:

I've got both the DVD5 and MKV versions, but have only burned the DVD5 copy (which looks great btw). My question is ... with only having a DVD burner, can I do anything with the MKV to shrink it down to a DVD9? I've got programs like Freemake that will accept MKVs and burn them to a DVD, but I'm afraid that the compression might be too much. Need some help from the experts.

I believe you can use mkvmerge to split an mkv into multiple discs based on time or duration.  A split will generally occur at the nearest keyframe, regardless of where you specify the split.

What I am not sure about is whether the bitrate of the mkv will be too much to play back from a DVD without glitching.  Perhaps that is why the AVCHD will be half the size of the mkv.

If you don't mind wasting a few DVDs and changing discs during playback, I suggest you test it out, otherwise wait for the AVCHD.

Bluray burners are becoming much cheaper and are worth the investment if you are going HD as it preserves the maximum quality and saves a lot of stuffing about with time consuming extra compression:  the LG is about $85.

Harmy,

Great job on your remastered DE.  I've seen your v1.0 versions so I was amazed at how much improvement you made with the new version.  It is an excellent preservation and reconstruction of what audiences in 77 saw and loved.  Thanks.

Harmy said:

The official AVCHD is still a few days away. Guys, I have my FINAL exams tomorrow, if I fail, I'm totally screwed, so I don't have time to f*ck about with this right now, so you'll just have to wait a bit.

As to that bright scene... FUCK IT!!! I already said it looked like this in my reference IB Print scans. Period. I really wish I could post some of them but I promised not to and I'm a man of my word.

Calibrating you monitor to make the scene look like you think it should will TOTALLY fuck up all the rest of the colours in other scenes!!!

Harmy, with all due respect there's no need to get all bent out of shape over these types of  comments. I'm not bashing the work you've put into this, and I'm not bashing your reasoning for the color timing you used. Relax.

When I saw this movie as an 8 year old, it was in a theater and it was a projected film. It wasn't digital and displayed on a computer monitor made in the 2000's. The presentation and circumstances are not the same. It's apples and oranges my friend.  My personal opinion is that part of that scene is just too bright. It's not how I remember seeing it as a kid, but that's okay because it's not being viewed under the same circumstances. I completely understand what you were trying to do. And I'll get over it. And if I can't, I'll see what becomes of the 35mm preservation to see if better suits my needs under today's modern experience.

What I would like to know, however, is if the screen captures that I posted and that DLVH posted match your screen captures of those same timecodes from your workprint. If they exactly match the IB Print, that's fine. But my understanding from the post I saw back in January is that you changed your color timing from the IB Print ever so slighty. I'm not asking if I should calibrate my monitor to match what *I* think it should look like. I'm asking you if my monitor is calibrated properly or needs adjusting to match what *you* intended it to look like. Feel free to respond back once your finals are over. I don't expect you to worry about this while you are trying to study.

Thanks again for your hard work.

I'd hardly say he's getting bent out of shape.  Much more likely he's frustrated that some people didn't bother to read back just a few pages where he specifically addressed the dune sea scene, and then again couldn't be bothered to keep comments regarding perceived flaws in PMs, despite his specific requests.

This is a discussion board is it not? If a person can't take constructive criticism or discuss their choices in a public forum then that's their own issue. And if something I've posted ruins someone else's experience, then quite honestly I'd be surprised since at least two people have said my screenshots look better than theirs.  I personally use a discussion board for the purpose of discussion, not PMs. I can still respect his effort without respecting his need for private communication.

I think I've found the posts you mentioned. And even a post from bilditup1 saying...."

"Aha, so I wasn't dreaming. I think that scene is a good test of whether your television or projector is properly calibrated or not."

Well. That may very well be the case. My monitor may not be calibrated correctly. The only thing is, I've not found are any finished product screen captures from Harmy that shows exactly how the Obi-Wan / Luke first meeting should look. I don't need to see the IB source images, all I need are a few different screen captures from that scene from his own computer's work print to know if my screen is off or not. To me, it's overly bright. And that may very well be the case if his screenshots are darker.

Harmy said:

The official AVCHD is still a few days away. Guys, I have my FINAL exams tomorrow, if I fail, I'm totally screwed, so I don't have time to f*ck about with this right now, so you'll just have to wait a bit.

As to that bright scene... FUCK IT!!! I already said it looked like this in my reference IB Print scans. Period. I really wish I could post some of them but I promised not to and I'm a man of my word.

Calibrating you monitor to make the scene look like you think it should will TOTALLY fuck up all the rest of the colours in other scenes!!!

Harmy, just ignore them now. The complaints will NEVER stop, because some people just can't understand what was the "purpose" of this "little" project of yours.

Good luck with your exams !

I havn't been able to get back on my home account to be able to download Harmy's DE 2 but just from comparing the shot to this IB screening it seems like he was aiming to match what was going on in the IB reference

http://petergaultney.smugmug.com/Movies/historic/Star-Wars-at-The-Senator/13089279_nXePV#!i=948681807&k=3oFJ2&lb=1&s=A

I'm fairly sure he's done more homework on this than all of us put together!!

frank678 said:

I havn't been able to get back on my home account to be able to download Harmy's DE 2 but just from comparing the shot to this IB screening it seems like he was aiming to match what was going on in the IB reference

http://petergaultney.smugmug.com/Movies/historic/Star-Wars-at-The-Senator/13089279_nXePV#!i=948681807&k=3oFJ2&lb=1&s=A

I'm fairly sure he's done more homework on this than all of us put together!!

Thanks for that screenshot! I'm fairly certain there's some difference in color from the IB print to my 2nd screenshot (from Harmy's MKV) below from my home monitor. You'll see in my second screen shot that there's primarily a gray/white sky where as the IB print has a slightly blue sky. I really won't know for sure until I get home to check it since I'm not dealing with the exact same captured frame.

IB Print

Sunday256 MKV screen captures

my theory is when the ib technicolor print (or as one theory goes this 1 of the 100 technicolor prints made from the original negative)  was made this scene had already faded on the negative and so the odd look of this scene is captured 'as is' = colour faded. 

frank678 said:

@sunday256

my theory is when the ib technicolor print (or as one theory goes this 1 of the 100 technicolor prints made from the original negative)  was made this scene had already faded on the negative and so the odd look of this scene is captured 'as is' = colour faded. 

The whole thing is...the images I captured and have posted are not the ones that look overly bright to me. They do actually look quite nice. But there are a few moments in the scene where everything is just so bright that it's blarring. But it's all hard to say at this point.

Let me state this clearly, I have no intentions of changing or altering the MKV file, AVCHD or DVD5 of this project to change one scene to a certain personal expectation. I have no ambition to do so. All I'm merely trying to determine is if my monitor and/or video settings are off. Hopefully by comparing screen captures from my PC, and those from Harmy's workprint can tell me if something is indeed off.

Oh and in response to -1, those look really dark. Way darker than I remember. But until I see them in the full context of the video it would be hard to comment more. If you post that scene (corrected) in one of your 35mm threads, let me know.