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Post #592996

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Mavimao
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Star Wars 1977 70mm sound mix recreation [stereo and 5.1 versions now available] (Released)
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1-Sep-2012, 7:44 AM

budwhite said:


I can't believe I missed the stereo version either. Thanks a lot hh!

 

I sampled the new 5.1 70mm the other day it sounds great, the bass is a real joy. But what about the surrounds? Is it all mono surround because it's mostly based on the 93 2.0 mix?

Did the 70mm mix have stereo surrounds way back when? If so, wouldn't it be legitimate to borrow parts of the surrounds from one of the official 5.1 mixes?(Sorry if this been discussed before)


The original 70mm mix used a form of early surround sound called "baby boom" in which "there were three speakers behind the screen (facing the audience) designated left, center, and right. There was also one surround channel and two low frequency effects channels that excepted frequencies below 200 Hz."

source http://frank.mtsu.edu/~smpte/seventies.html

So it's a 4.2 surround sound system if you will. Three in the front, one in the back and TWO (count em) two discreet channels for bass. BOOOOOOM

The 93 mix is indeed a 2.0 mix, but it is matrixed surround sound - meaning that there are actually 4 channels of sound encoded in the 2 channels. You need a dolby surround decoder to decode the extra channels and send them to the front and rears.

Hh was able to split this matrixed channels from 2 to four different channels and remix them that way - along with all the necessary edits.

Hh will never use the "official" 5.1 mixes -except for maybe the discreet bass channel - just because the mixes in terms of content are totally different and actually sound like crap.

He talks about that here

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-1977-70mm-sound-mix-recreation-stereo-and-51-versions-now-available/post/547363/#TopicPost547363

and here

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-1977-70mm-sound-mix-recreation-stereo-and-51-versions-now-available/post/548812/#TopicPost548812