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Post #591422

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Stinky-Dinkins
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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25-Aug-2012, 3:38 AM

delusions_of_grandeur said:

YanniD said:

Although it is not explicitly summarised in the thread, my interpretation of the release sequence is as follows:

1. mkv - 16GB 720p mkv, movie only

2. AVCHD - 8.5GB 720p basic Bluray structure, movie only

3. Bluray - 25GB 1080p advanced Bluray structure, movie with extras

Corrections to this view welcomed.

Since the AVCHD will be about half the size of the mkv, then the mkv will be higher quality?

ClownBD can convert mkv-->M2TS-->Bluray without transcoding loss.

M2TS has an additional timestamp field designed for random access in PVRs, players etc, so theoretically has more stable navigation than TS or even mkv. It is curious that some members mention mkv as being better, but perhaps it comes down to the (limited) implementation of M2TS in the players.

One correction. I doubt the blu-ray will be true 1080p. 720p as far as I can tell.

Yeah, Harmy has said this will be 720p... due to the constraints of his hardware and it being designed to suit a single layer BD 25.

That being said - given the fact that the highest quality available source (for most scenes) is the BD which is sourced from an "older" 2004 master, the drop in picture quality won't be all that noticeable with decent compression. The retail BD itself isn't (as in it doesn't appear to be) "true" 1080p either (even though resolution doesn't apply to film as such) relative to other films transferred from much more recent masters (Braveheart, Jaws, Blade Runner, etc.) The data itself is 1920X1080 24p on the Blu Ray, "true 1080p," but that doesn't speak to the actual amount of detail that can be discerned as it plays back. Film has a very high potential resolvable resolution, much more than 1080p, but when the most current master was struck for Star Wars (over 8 years ago) technology was far behind where it is today, so its current BD transfer is hardly on the bleeding edge of visual fidelity. I doubt any significant amount of fine detail will be lost in downconverting this to 720p given the state of the BD.

When dealing with film, "true" 1080p on BD is completely relative - it's purely a marketing term. The Thin Red Line (unbelievable picture quality) and Tomb Raider (shit on a stick) are both "true" 1080p per se on BD in that they're both 1920X1080 24p. Tomb Raider looks horrendous on the medium even though it was shot in the not so distant past; it appearing so soft and flawed was not part of its design as it was being shot (as is the case with some films like Lost in Translation) either, it's the fact that its master is old and sucks dick... Not like a new master would improve Tomb Raider anyway, fucking terrible movie.