Warbler said:
CP3S said:
Warbler said:
Bingowings said:
Warbler said :
true, but at least when I booze and/or over eat while sitting next to someone, I am not giving them heart disease and/or liver problems.
True but have you heard about a domestic abuse case directly linked to smoking? I could imagine one linked to giving up smoking but not smoking itself. What about the hit and run drivers where their judgement was blurred by tobacco.
I have never committed domestic abuse, nor do I drive drunk.
And I've never given anyone lung cancer. There, we're even!
However, on my way to work I drive past several white crosses alongside the highway... Most of them related to drunk driving. There is no arguing it, alcohol is WAY more deadly than cigarettes.
Last time: I don't drink and drive.
Last time: I don't have lung cancer.
I suppose that means both habits are pretty safe and harmless?
CP3S said:
Are you not aware of the deadly long term health risks associated with alcohol use?yes, but the health risks are only to the drinker, not those around him.
Not if you don't smoke in close proximity of others. When I smoke it is usually out of doors alone with my pipe or a cigar. There is no one around me breathing that air. When I go out with friends and bum a cigarette or two, it is us smoking around a lot of other smokers, or people over the age of 21 who are willingly putting themselves into a room filled with deadly carcinogenic air.
It is true, you do have dumb women pushing strollers while smoking or pregnant, and other horrible selfish acts like that. But that is akin to the guy who has a few drinks and physically or verbally abuses his children while under the influence, or a woman who drives her kids somewhere while drunk. It is irresponsible use. I wasn't trying to argue those things never happen. Both drinking and smoking are horrible habits, but I find it annoying and ironic that smokers are highly looked down upon at present in our society, almost to the point of becoming taboo, but alcohol use and abuse is still plenty acceptable.
It is an example of, "I don't do it, so it isn't a big deal to lose it". If you enjoy going out every now and then and loosening up with a few drinks, then you can't really condemn the habit. When you get no enjoyment out of smoking or have any interest in it, then it is easy to say, "It is disgusting and you are killing the entire world!" A lot more people drink than smoke, so this one is a no brainer. But if we are being fair, they are both pretty awful, pretty disgusting, and over all do a massive amount of harm.