Aalenfae's PREQUEL TRILOGY (Heavily delayed - computer exploded) — Page 23

aalenfae said:

Titus, I like your idea about not showing Jango's face at all during the scene. It might work pretty well, and I'll give it a try. 

I wonder if it's possible to not show Jango's face at all in the movie.

Of course, the awkward questioning scene on Kamino would have to go, but I'm not so sure it's all that important.  The next obvious problem would be Mace Windu putting his lightsaber to Fett's throat.  Could it be possible to put his helmet over his head?  He doesn't move very much.

As the Phantom Editor pointed out, it's really a shame we didn't get a final confrontation between Fett and Obi-Wan.

aalenfae said:

Thanks for the high praise, MrInsaneA! 
Though I am still tweaking it! :)

Titus, I like your idea about not showing Jango's face at all during the scene. It might work pretty well, and I'll give it a try. 
And I think your point about the ships just flying around doing nothing is valid. Watching the clip again, it does seem like they just fly around doing nothing for a little too long. I'll see what I can do.

(And yes, I can't wait until I get some good 1080 footage of "1313" cutscenes. But that'll have to wait until the game's out, probably.) 

I wouldn't say they're doing nothing. They're avoiding asteroids. Add some music, I'm sure it will heighten the tension. And as far as Jango goes, don't cut too much out, or you won't have a scene at all! 

How about some more radical approach?

http://youtu.be/lRMDHDIEmvA

Sorry for crude editing and quality - it was done very quick.. Of course, music, effects etc need to be tighten up.

I'm try to describe this scene in short. Jango plays cat & mouse with Obi up until he's shooting a rocket. No stupid seismic charges and gunfire - Fett came from behind and do his job. IMO, in that way, two of them are not complete morons and know what they doing. Just strait to the point action scene.

p.s.: Some more build up before rocket shoot may also help. And we never see Jango's face.

Evin Jade said:

How about some more radical approach?

http://youtu.be/lRMDHDIEmvA

Sorry for crude editing and quality - it was done very quick.. Of course, music, effects etc need to be tighten up.

I'm try to describe this scene in short. Jango plays cat & mouse with Obi up until he's shooting a rocket. No stupid seismic charges and gunfire - Fett came from behind and do his job. IMO, in that way, two of them are not complete morons and know what they doing. Just strait to the point action scene.

p.s.: Some more build up before rocket shoot may also help. And we never see Jango's face.

How are they morons? This appears to be one of those "da prequelz r stoopid" arguments that doesn't have a lot of weight. No offense of course, I just don't get how either one of them looks dumb. 

Also, a looootttttt of people like the seismic charges, including me. If only for that sound-barrier breaking thing they do. :p 

Idea about Jango and the assassination plot:

Any reason Zam needs to stay in the movie at all?

What about cutting out the worm assassination attempt and ensuing chase out all altogether?

General order of events:

(Seciors has a great new intro idea for Ep 2 over at fanedit.org - have the movie start with Count Dooku and the Emperor)

• landing dock assassination attempt
• Padme deleted scene addressing the Senate
• Obi and Anakin scene in front of the Jedi Council being tasked to investigate the threat, and for Anakin to protect Padme
• Anakin and Padme packing scene (need re-introduction just before this scene?)
• Anakin and Padme departure scene - instead of registered transport, they board a different ship (idea to come below)
• As they are leaving, Jango shows up just outside the Coruscant atmosphere to shoot them down - Anakin shows off his flying skills and blasts into hyperspace just in time  - should be easy Aalenfae!  XD
• Obi deleted scene of analyzing the toxic dart - redubbed to say "unusual shrapnel found at the Senator's landing dock"

Continue from here...

These wouldn't be all the scenes, just a general flow.

Aalenfae, love the idea that you're working on more than just Ep 3!  Your work has all been great!  Thanks!

obikal said:

Idea about Jango and the assassination plot:

 

Any reason Zam needs to stay in the movie at all?

What about cutting out the worm assassination attempt and ensuing chase out all altogether?

General order of events:

(Seciors has a great new intro idea for Ep 2 over at fanedit.org - have the movie start with Count Dooku and the Emperor)

• landing dock assassination attempt
• Padme deleted scene addressing the Senate
• Obi and Anakin scene in front of the Jedi Council being tasked to investigate the threat, and for Anakin to protect Padme
• Anakin and Padme packing scene (need re-introduction just before this scene?)
• Anakin and Padme departure scene - instead of registered transport, they board a different ship (idea to come below)
• As they are leaving, Jango shows up just outside the Coruscant atmosphere to shoot them down - Anakin shows off his flying skills and blasts into hyperspace just in time  - should be easy Aalenfae!  XD
• Obi deleted scene of analyzing the toxic dart - redubbed to say "unusual shrapnel found at the Senator's landing dock"

 

Continue from here...

These wouldn't be all the scenes, just a general flow.

 

Aalenfae, love the idea that you're working on more than just Ep 3!  Your work has all been great!  Thanks!

I totally dig the "Jango trying to shoot Anakin down, and Anakin evading him" thing. It sounds like it'd be a pain in the dick to pull off, but if you could do it Aalanfae, it would be amazing.

Wow! So much feedback that I don't even know what to do with it all! 

I'll address a few things, though.
I'm leaning towards KEEPING the seismic charges.

Corellian77:
Thanks for that idea! I'm glad somebody else thinks like that. I'm actually working on making the shockwave/explosion not blue, but removing the color so radically does make the effect look kind of... dirty. I'm still working on it, though. I might be able to work something up. I'll post my progress!

Another note about seismic charges: 

Regardless of how much people don't like the prequels and perhaps this scene in particular, that scene (or at least that part of the scene) has become something of a classic moment. It'd be like cutting out the Quad-Gun scene from ANH because it was unnecessary (which it really is). But no... it's a classic scene, and it belongs in the movie. The seismic charges are something unique and (regardless of how senseless they are plot-wise and weaponry-wise), pretty dang cool.

(But they're in Rogue Squadron 3, and they're pretty stinking dangerous - despite their 2D nature)

Now, on to the edit in general.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I'm going to say what I'm NOT looking for. And that's a complete re-structuring of the movie. 

I'm of the camp that the prequels really aren't THAT bad as they stand. I'm really just trying to make them marginally better at least. While some scenes will face some severe cuts, I'm really not looking to change the actual material all THAT much (beyond color correction and some bonus goodies like that). If that makes sense.

Personally, I would love to remake the prequels from scratch, as I think I have a better story in mind. BUT, such radical changes are simply not possible with the source material given to us, so... it will have to stay. I love the more radical ideas, so keep 'em coming! They give me great ideas to use, but just keep in mind that I'm really not looking for huge, massive changes. 

That being said, I have a very... interesting change I've made to a particular scene involving C-3P0, which I'll post in a few hours. I hope you guys like it! :)

aalenfae said:

Wow! So much feedback that I don't even know what to do with it all! 

 

I'll address a few things, though.
I'm leaning towards KEEPING the seismic charges.

Corellian77:
Thanks for that idea! I'm glad somebody else thinks like that. I'm actually working on making the shockwave/explosion not blue, but removing the color so radically does make the effect look kind of... dirty. I'm still working on it, though. I might be able to work something up. I'll post my progress!

Another note about seismic charges: 

Regardless of how much people don't like the prequels and perhaps this scene in particular, that scene (or at least that part of the scene) has become something of a classic moment. It'd be like cutting out the Quad-Gun scene from ANH because it was unnecessary (which it really is). But no... it's a classic scene, and it belongs in the movie. The seismic charges are something unique and (regardless of how senseless they are plot-wise and weaponry-wise), pretty dang cool.

(But they're in Rogue Squadron 3, and they're pretty stinking dangerous - despite their 2D nature)

Now, on to the edit in general.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I'm going to say what I'm NOT looking for. And that's a complete re-structuring of the movie. 

I'm of the camp that the prequels really aren't THAT bad as they stand. I'm really just trying to make them marginally better at least. While some scenes will face some severe cuts, I'm really not looking to change the actual material all THAT much (beyond color correction and some bonus goodies like that). If that makes sense.

Personally, I would love to remake the prequels from scratch, as I think I have a better story in mind. BUT, such radical changes are simply not possible with the source material given to us, so... it will have to stay. I love the more radical ideas, so keep 'em coming! They give me great ideas to use, but just keep in mind that I'm really not looking for huge, massive changes. 

That being said, I have a very... interesting change I've made to a particular scene involving C-3P0, which I'll post in a few hours. I hope you guys like it! :)

Oh, you tease, you. :D

And glad your keeping the seismic charges. I've always dug them, regardless of their impracticality.  

http://vimeo.com/47703851

And tease I will!

You are a tease!  There's no video! :(  Hope it gets worked out.  I'm excited about your work.

EDIT: seems to be working now :)  Nice work.

aalenfae said:

Wow! So much feedback that I don't even know what to do with it all! 

 

I'll address a few things, though.
I'm leaning towards KEEPING the seismic charges.

Corellian77:
Thanks for that idea! I'm glad somebody else thinks like that. I'm actually working on making the shockwave/explosion not blue, but removing the color so radically does make the effect look kind of... dirty. I'm still working on it, though. I might be able to work something up. I'll post my progress!

Another note about seismic charges: 

Regardless of how much people don't like the prequels and perhaps this scene in particular, that scene (or at least that part of the scene) has become something of a classic moment. It'd be like cutting out the Quad-Gun scene from ANH because it was unnecessary (which it really is). But no... it's a classic scene, and it belongs in the movie. The seismic charges are something unique and (regardless of how senseless they are plot-wise and weaponry-wise), pretty dang cool.

(But they're in Rogue Squadron 3, and they're pretty stinking dangerous - despite their 2D nature)

Now, on to the edit in general.
I appreciate all the feedback, but I'm going to say what I'm NOT looking for. And that's a complete re-structuring of the movie. 

I'm of the camp that the prequels really aren't THAT bad as they stand. I'm really just trying to make them marginally better at least. While some scenes will face some severe cuts, I'm really not looking to change the actual material all THAT much (beyond color correction and some bonus goodies like that). If that makes sense.

Personally, I would love to remake the prequels from scratch, as I think I have a better story in mind. BUT, such radical changes are simply not possible with the source material given to us, so... it will have to stay. I love the more radical ideas, so keep 'em coming! They give me great ideas to use, but just keep in mind that I'm really not looking for huge, massive changes. 

That being said, I have a very... interesting change I've made to a particular scene involving C-3P0, which I'll post in a few hours. I hope you guys like it! :)

Haha fair enough  :)  (I'm in the same boat of a complete remake - I would love to have some rich director/producer remake the prequels from scratch...  maybe someday...)

I'm also a fan of the seismic charges.  Love that sound!

Ooh, some great ideas here, Bob! And I absolutely LOVE the cut at 0:48. Consider it stolen! "Heh heh heh" ~Boba Fett ;)

You both giants here!

Listen, any of you willing to make it so that the characters are ahead of the viewer in terms of what's going on?

I think it could work:

a) The slave comes out of hiperspace, cut to "he doesn't take a hint this guy" and only when we are wandering what does Jango refer to, we see the Jedi starfighter coming out of hiperspace.

b) I think this one would work better, since it stranghtens obiwan and not jango, which is a character that isn't that important. ObiWan comes out of the asteroid tunnel, cuts to "oh dear" line, and only then we see that Jango is behind him and starts chasing him, this meaning at the exact moment he comes out of the tunnel, Kenobi has realised he's been set a trap.

I'm not towards the disyunctive A or B, for I'm also curious about how would both of the situations work together, and above all, how would they affect the impression we got of the characters.

Greetings!

aalenfae said:

http://vimeo.com/47703851

And tease I will!

Name's a little misleading!

Video is still processing, so wait a bit... but here's something to look at.
Just an idea I was given - to totally remove the missile from the scene. Thoughts?
http://vimeo.com/48251201

but i want to see it NOW!