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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 195

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I already have the Blu-Ray. Now I have 2 copies of the prequel trilogy and 3 of the original trilogy.

"Let's face it, the Ewoks sucked, dude" -Hurley, Lost 5x13-Some like it Hoth.

Please bear with me if I tend to get too excited about anything or say too much, I have issues.

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jabbo5150 said:

Harmy said:

Yes, 15GB video stream is the plan.

I have an Oppo BDP-93. Would this be something I could dump onto a flash drive and play that way? Would it be fast enough to handle it or will I need to use a hard drive?

The Oppo only supports proper mkv playback with DD, DTS, mp3 and LPCM non-HD audio codecs.

It will however support M2TS files and BDMV (and AVCHD\BDMV) structures (plus ISO if you still have pre-Jan 2012 firmware) from an attached drive with full HD video and audio codec support, along with subtitles.

ClownBD can convert an mkv file into M2TS or Bluray structure (folders or ISO), retaining chapter points and converting subtitles where necessary.  Bluray structure contains BDMV folders, which can be copied to AVCHD folders if necessary.

I recommend Bluray structure as it supports chapter navigation, plus you can then burn to BD-R as a mini-Bluray.

A BDMV folder, AVCHD\BDMV folder or ISO version of Harmy's mkv should play back fine from a flash drive on the Oppo.

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Anyway, guys, I was thinking; I'm still not very happy about the jaggies on the crawl - I even tried rendering it in 4K and they're still there. Couldn't running it through some anti aliasing script help? It doesn't really matter what it would do to the rest of the picture, I could just mask it out but I'd need step by step instructions on how to run the script.

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For my crawl re-creation I applied a matte choker effect to the upper half of the crawl. That pretty much eliminated most artifacts.

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Oops, little correction: Checking my AE comp I didn't use a matte choker, but I blurred the crawl a bit while it was still at 1920 pixels width (0.6 pixels fast blur) and then re-sharpened it by adding contrast to the (now blurred) alpha channel of the text (Alpha-Levels: input 71/191, gamma 1.0, output 0/255)

Of course I applied these values to freshly typed text that had all the sharp corners of a digital font, and I used the blur (and some more filters, like a Median after that) to make it look more like an optical composite. If I remember correctly you extracted the text from the actual crawl, so it's already "rounded" off, so my values might not work for you.

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did you have any lucky with it, Harmy?

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Here's my list of notes on the second half.  It includes all the problematic laser blasts, though I see now that you've already been working on those; but here's a thorough accounting of them.  Again, nearly all of these things are just 2004 errors that haven't yet been fixed.  And as before, anything I haven't commented on looks fantastic and excellent.  ;)

 

00:58:19 — There seems to be some blue light leaking into this shot that isn't present in subsequent shots.

01:11:49:11 — Some pink/purple in this explosion.

01:14:02, 01:14:14 — The side of Han's face looks weird.  Perhaps it is supposed to be that way, but to me it seems like an error caused by clipped reds.

01:22:49:01, 01:23:49:00 — Some definite purpleness going on here.

01:24:49 — Pink tint (or at least something strangely unnatural) in this shot.

Obi-wan's cloak appears too dark in nearly every shot of the duel; black instead of brown.  Occasionally it is the proper colour.

01:26:24 — Some pretty extreme magenta going on here, both on the stormtrooper who gets blasted and in the background.

01:27:03 — The Millennium Falcon's engine glow diminishes somewhat near the end of the shot.  I was under the impression that it remained constant throughout in the original version, and that changes in brightness were added in the SE.  Is this a remnant of the SE effect, or is it supposed to do this?

01:28:25 - 01:28:26 — The TIE fighter that flies by in this shot is very green, which looks bizarre.

01:34:42 — Some blue haloing from the background lights can be seen on Tarkin and Vader.

01:37:58 — Frozen artefacts on Yavin.  The ships flying away seem too dim.

01:39:00, 01:39:05 — Red Leader's helmet, normally yellow, appears green.

01:29:57:18 — This whole shot looks strange in a way that is nearly indescribable; particularly the laser blasts.  There is a softness or blockiness or something I can't really identify, but it seems wrong in some way . . .

01:41:36, 01:41:39 — Green lasers somewhat desaturated.

01:42:28, 01:42:30 — Laser blasts almost completely white, particularly right at the end of the shot.

01:42:31 - 01:42:37, 01:42:52, 01:42:57 — Lasers seen through cockpit windows have no colour.

01:43:11, 01:43:17, 01:43:35 — Red interior lighting of Vader's TIE fighter is desaturated, particularly compared to wingman shot at 01:43:14.

01:43:21 — Dull and ugly looking laser blasts.

01:43:41 — Red Leader's helmet green again.

01:44:30:06 — Laser blasts in this shot look really repulsive.  They have a hideous blue glow around them that absolutely should not be there.  A similar problem also occurs later in the 2004 master, but I see that shot (01:46:42) has been replaced with its GOUT equivalent.  Use of the GOUT may be the only option here as well, if this cannot be eliminated by other means.

01:44:32:20 — Now the lasers are back to being heavily desaturated again.  Also at 01:44:35, but less obviously.

01:45:08 — Desaturated lasers as Vader fires at the X-wing; saturation on the subsequent explosion seems too extreme, though I won't presume to say if this is actually incorrect.

01:45:47 — Red Leader's green helmet syndrome makes a return appearance.

01:46:25:12 — This is an example of a laser blast looking nicer than at 01:42:30, which is especially odd since the two shots are duplicates of each other.  It could still probably use a bit of a boost, though.

01:46:44:19 — Desaturated lasers also show up in this shot.

01:47:16, 01:47:31, 01:47:16 — Vader's cockpit lighting is dull.  In the first shot it is also slightly pink.

01:48:16, 01:48:40 — Even duller and pinker shots of Vader.

01:48:41:11 — Lasers look kind of blue-tinted.

01:48:42:02 — Is the laser blast supposed to illuminate as it goes by, or is this a colour leakage of some kind?  There's also some odd blueness to the right of frame just after this; again, I can't quite tell if this is a mistake or not, but it looks strange.

01:49:05 — Not only is Vader's lighting pink in this shot, it's so heavily desaturated there's barely any recognizable colour at all.

01:49:15 — Pink tint, both on Vader and his wingman.  Significantly worse in the wingman shot.

01:49:25 — Underside of the Millennium Falcon too dark.

 

Seeing the colour change you made to the Alderaan explosion made me remember that the destruction of the Death Star in the 1997 version had some interestingly varied hues, reds and blues and such.  Is any of that present in the Technicolor original?  And if so, is there any way to incorporate it?

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OK, this time, there are so many that I won't reply to each separately. I'm just going to say this:

Like I already said, concerning the lasers, I already did all I could or rather was willing to do (I could of course go and load all those shots to AE and recolour each of the blasts separately but I'm not mad, folks) and all this was done after this WP. Also, I think the blasts in the 01:44:30:06 shot are some of the best looking ones in the scene and I had to watch it frame by frame and examine it closely to even see the blue glow you describe.

And I hate that I can't actually show you guys the IB reference pictures, so you'd see I'm not making this up to excuse my laziness (which undeniably plays a role in some cases too of course) but most of the green laser bolts in the IB references are much duller and bluer than you may think. The same goes for Ben's dark cloak during the duel and the pink blast frames throughout the whole film. It is actually interesting how many of the colour inconsistencies seen in the IB print were preserved in the 2004 colour timing. The changes in the darkness and tint of Ben's cloak during the duel for example match the IB print practically shot for shot, although they're actually a bit more extreme in the 2004 version. Another anomaly preserved in the 2004 colours is the green tie fighter described above. As to the Death  explosion, the colours are actually a bit less red in the IB print. The colours in the last video here are actually very acurate: http://petergaultney.smugmug.com/Movies/historic/Star-Wars-at-The-Senator/13089279_nXePV#!i=1495797105&k=kHq3bq9, check it for both the appearance of the 01:49:25 Falcon shot and the DS explosion.

So, in short, I might try and do something more about the Falcon leaving the DS bay shot and maybe some of the Vader's cockpit shots.

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You are mad:)   Just kiddding.

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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OK, fixed the shots I wanted, so unless someone posts more comments tomorrow, I'll start rendering the lossless avi in the evening. That will take at least two days to render. Then I want to watch it, just to make sure everything is ok and if it is, I'll start encoding the video for the MKV. That will take a few days too but if all goes as planned, you could all be downloading this in a week :-)

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Hi Harmy today I was watching WPR6 just for fun. I notice the shot of the Xwing locking the "S" foils as they approach the Death Star. In that shot I saw sothing like a halo around the Xwing.

I thought well there is much he can do about that, that just the GOUT.

Then I notice a few pages back you upgrade some shots and that was one of them.

 

Great work. I bow before you,

 

Troy

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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OK, fixed the shots I wanted, so unless someone posts more comments tomorrow, I'll start rendering the lossless avi in the evening. That will take at least two days to render. Then I want to watch it, just to make sure everything is ok and if it is, I'll start encoding the video for the MKV. That will take a few days too but if all goes as planned, you could all be downloading this in a week :-)

YES! This is really happening! Break out the champagne! Or more likely the cheap beer! Exclamation points!!!! :)

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”

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Hey Harmy after V2 are you gonna try a V3 or is this it for despecializing?

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Who knows, maybe in time I'll get a new computer and some better sources than GOUT will surface (and they just might) and I'll do a v3 in 1080p.

Anyway, I figured out a way to make the crawl look better but it involves a lot of work, including redoing the crawl in 4K, rendering at 4K and then resizing in photoshop in at least three steps, so I may have to postpone the rendering to tomorrow.

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bilditup1 said:

YES! This is really happening! Break out the champagne! Or more likely the cheap beer! Exclamation points!!!! :)

I agree! Although the empty wallet will have to suffice for some tap water, and plenty of exclamation points!!!!!!

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Great news!  Between this, puggo strikes back, and -1's project, this is going to be a great year for star wars restorations.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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Harmy said:

Who knows, maybe in time I'll get a new computer and some better sources than GOUT will surface (and they just might) and I'll do a v3 in 1080p.

Anyway, I figured out a way to make the crawl look better but it involves a lot of work, including redoing the crawl in 4K, rendering at 4K and then resizing in photoshop in at least three steps, so I may have to postpone the rendering to tomorrow.

 Well when -1 is finished maybe you can do the partially Respecialized Edition.

Using mostly -1 but cleaning it up with blu ray.

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N1's restoration is actually the better source I meant. Depending on how good it looks, I'd either use it for nearly all the despecializations or just those where I was forced to use only GOUT upscales, like most battle of Yavin shots and such. But that's thinking way into the future anyway because I definitely won't be starting V3 unless I'm sure I can do it in 1080p and that'd definitely require new hardware.

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Dear friends. Please tell how to down load and make blueray DVD of Star Wars free today.

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OK OK, it was a joke! Sheesh!

 

Seriously, I came across this project on the week before ROTJ v1 came out, and have been silently following along ever since. When I watched the (first) despecialised versions of my childhood movie, I knew I was in the right place. I've refrained from downloading the WPs because I don't know the intimacies of the original film enough to offer any useful comment.

 

But it's coming soon, and I can hardly wait! Just wanted to say THANKS for keeping at this Harmy. Oh, and hello!

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Welcome to the forum :-) I'm glad you enjoy the Despecialized Editions. If you haven't already, take a good look around, you may find countless other amazing SW restorations and other projects :-)

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Hey Harmy are you gonna update your picasa albums for V2?

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I'm gonna make a brand new one, since there are very few shots that remained the same as v1.0 and even those that did are coloured differently.

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is this still on schedule for rendering tomorrow?