xhonzi said:

darth_ender said:

Many of your points are valid. I don't know that I'll have a response for everything, and I do not presume that all my responses will sufficiently rebut your critiques, nor that the story conveyed the point well enough on screen. However, some of it may stick, and you may enjoy the film better in future viewings.

Thanks, Ender, for the thoughtful reply.

But it looks like you agreed with 18 of my points

I counted six, Mr. Wayne. Or it might have been 7, but then it wouldn't be quite as clever a movie reference. Reading it myself, I feel like only 6 or 7 of your points were valid enough to draw me out of the movie to the point where I'd complain about it. The rest I acknowledged where you were coming from, but did not see them as sufficient grounds for complaint.

and offered a soft rebuttal on 2 of them. Was this your intention?

I'd say they were mostly soft rebuttals, and maybe 2 hard rebuttals. My intention was to respect your views while explaining why I differed, not to say, "Xhonzi's an idiot for disagreeing with me." We are talking largely about opinions here, and really very few facts are part of the discussion.

EDIT: Allow me to suggest that if you take my response to your list in light of my Batman Begins list (again, a film I LOVE), you'll see that I'm making some of the complaints of equal value...yeah, they're problems if we're talking about real life...but we're not (i.e. Talia's motives).