Tobar said:
2. How cowardly/stupid the physicist must have been to willingly go along with the plot, knowing that they would kill him. If he was trying to preserve his own life, he only deferred his execution. Way to go bud, not only do you die but your actions ensure that you take 8 million of your closest friends with you
During the arena sequence Bane makes it clear that they have his family and that if he doesn't deliver they will kill them.
I must have missed that. I think I understood about 90% of Bane's dialogue, but there were a few things that slipped past me. Still... what a coward.
23. I agree with Gaffer that the OWS/99% thing was laid on too thick. Dude, I got it.
I read that earlier and think they are mostly being truthful. I don't think the OWS movement occurred and they thought "let's put this in a movie!". But it was certainly in full swing when they were shooting/cutting the movie. My concern isn't even that it's in the movie, just that I thought it was poorly handled.
27. Why was this even a Batman movie? He's hardly in it. It's more about Bane and John Blake. Why not just make that movie. It's almost like Nolan made a Batman movie under duress. He was contractually obligated to put Batman in at least 15% of the movie, so he did... but that didn't stop him from making 3 or 4 other characters be more interesting and have more screen time.
Do you think Batman was in more of The Dark Knight than he was in this? That film was completely the Joker's show. This film was about Bruce's journey. Besides they established early on that his body is completely wrecked. Sure he could temporarily compensate with those bracers but there's no way he could sustain that indefinitely.
I don't think Batman was in TDK enough either, but Bruce started the movie being Batman, was Batman the entire movie, and was Batman at the end. TDKR has very little Batman (less than TDK, I'm guessing) and not much more Bruce.
Warbler said:
xhonzi said:
13. I know Batman hates guns. But how many innocent lives is he willing to spend to keep this ideal? He fights Bane mano-e-mano and almost loses (twice!) when a well placed bullet to the head could have ended things pretty quickly. 8 million lives are on the line, but Batman still refuses to use a gun. [JohnAdams]Incredible.[/JohnAdams] Henry Jones, Jr. could have ended that fight a lot sooner and wouldn’t have put so many innocent lives on the line.
get this through you your head, Batman doesn't use guns and he doesn't kill. That is part of his character. His parents were killed with a gun. Batman fans would have been outraged if Nolan decided to have Batman use a gun to kill Bane.
Get this through your head: I know Batman doesn't use guns or kill... except for... you know... when he does.
Even so, my complaint is that in a situation like this, not using a gun is ridiculously selfish and risky and stupid. Period end of sentence!
Warbler said:
xhonzi said:
10. How did the occupation work, exactly? Did people still go to work? I don’t think there are any farms in Gotham, so food supplies on the island would be gone within 2-3 days.
I think the food supply would last longer than that, especially if people rationed what they ate.
How much longer? Like, 4 days? Or 5 months? Rationing is what you do when you're at home with people you love. Ransacking the place and taking everything you can carry is what you do when a maniac bombs the bridges and you want to try to take care of your family.
In any case, it doesn't really matter how long it takes for them to be out of food... they would be out of food in short order. The movie shows supply trucks showing up... but I can't begin to imagine it being anywhere near efficient enough that very many people are alive at the end of the 5 months.
xhonzi said:
16. Bruce is still broken up about Rachel 8 years later? Truth be told, I think Harvey in TDK acts a little too over the top at her passing. Maybe my wife of 10 years, but not a girl I had been dating long enough to be quasi-engaged. Rachel must be some girl that both Harvey and Bruce can't live without her.
heartbreak can do a number on you.
Tell me more, Warbler.
30. When the wall of cops run at the mob of thugs, who spray bullets at the wall o' cops, and none of the cops get shot until they can see the whites of their eyes. Those cops were pretty much shoulder to shoulder. Every bullet fired in their general direction would have killed somebody.