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http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/okuda3.html

Part 3 of the Oduka's interview is up on TrekCore. They mention in "The Naked Now" that they discuss the TOS Enterprise in the episode but show a diagram of the refit. They've made a diagram of the TOS Enterprise to use in that shot.

I asked Oduka about it on Twitter:

@doubleofive said:

Are you planning on fixing many mistakes like that? You've got to be torn between recreating the original FX & making them better

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In vast majority of cases, we try to re-create original FX, including artistic decisions with which we disagree.

Not sure why this mistakes warrants fixing when others won't be, but perhaps it was because it was his mistake to begin with, though they're keeping the graphics green even though Oduka wanted them white.

I don't mind fixing little mistakes like this, I guess, but I'm worried because TOSR started as a shot-by-shot enhancement of effects that turned into a bit much at times.

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I thought TOSR crossed the line when they erased a statue that was part of the live action city set in the episode "Wink of an eye".

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Missed that. Mine was the new expansive shots of Vulcan for Amok Time that replaced live action shots completely.

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Those are exactly the reasons why I keep BOTH versions of TOS :-)

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Exactly the reason I'm glad the Blu-ray keeps both for me. But do we do the same with all 7 seasons of TNG?

I'm depending on you people to preserve the originals, I don't care for TNG enough to buy both! ;-)

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The interesting thing is that all the remastered special effect shots are widescreen

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pittrek said:


The interesting thing is that all the remastered special effect shots are widescreen
I believe that ILM shot the effects for the pilot on widescreen film, as evidenced by the recreated credits seen on an early trailer:

http://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/TNGHD

You'll notice that the two "new" close ups are actually reuses from the shots from the credits, and the long shot is mostly CGI so they rendered it in 16:9 to match the others. The other preview shots (using effects NOT from the opening credits) have been cropped, as the Blu-ray is. Also note in the shot of the planet that you can see the left most edge of the film and the new planet comes out from behind it!

What still bugs me is that they rendered ALL the new TOSR shots in 16:9 for some reason.

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doubleofive said:

 

pittrek said:


The interesting thing is that all the remastered special effect shots are widescreen
I believe that ILM shot the effects for the pilot on widescreen film, as evidenced by the recreated credits seen on an early trailer:

http://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/TNGHD

You'll notice that the two "new" close ups are actually reuses from the shots from the credits, and the long shot is mostly CGI so they rendered it in 16:9 to match the others. The other preview shots (using effects NOT from the opening credits) have been cropped, as the Blu-ray is.

What still bugs me is that they rendered ALL the new TOSR shots in 16:9 for some reason.

 

I remember seeing the TOS footage widescreen but only in some promo pictures. Was the widescreen render actually used ?

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pittrek said:


I remember seeing the TOS footage widescreen but only in some promo pictures. Was the widescreen render actually used ?
I believe the Japanese got cropped 16:9 live action and full 16:9 new effects shots. Some of the episodes available on Xbox Live had 4:3 live action and 16:9 effects.

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The interview on TrekMovie says that they're using a CG Enterprise for shots they don't find, and they're using Tobias Richter's model, better known as The Light Works. I've always been impressed with his models for years, he now does the effects for New Voyages/Phase II. I love when they don't start from scratch when there are perfectly good fan works out there. Interesting that they didn't use the model created by John Knoll for Generations (and used in DS9 as various Galaxy-class ships) OR the one Gabriel Köerner (another ascended fan) made for the last episode of Enterprise.

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http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yF4i3eNDxKo/UARr2TW_c3I/AAAAAAAAO6Y/W_IfP7zEhso/s800/SaucerSep.jpg
A comparison of the original saucer separation effect from "Encounter at Farpoint", the HD reuse in "Star Trek: Generations", and the CGI replacement used in TNGR.

I wonder if ILM lost the separation footage when they reused it for "Generations", so that's why they had to use Richter's model?

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SilverWook said:

I thought TOSR crossed the line when they erased a statue that was part of the live action city set in the episode "Wink of an eye".

Since they give you a choice of the original episodes, I guess my only beef was the new stuff looks sort of screensavery. If they had somehow gotten the tv-era ship up to the level of the Trumbull '79 that would have been cool. TNG should be very interesting, I'd like to netflix those blu-rays first, though I doubt they'll have it. Also, I still have a thing for Tasha Yar with that new wave/ Gozer hair in that one episode. 

I totally forgot about the reused stuff in Generations, it makes sense that's when that footage went missing. One more reason to hate that movie. 

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I should have said I thought they crossed the line when I saw it broadcast.

The Blu Rays were not out yet at the time, and the season one HD-DVD set did not include the originals.

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Weird to see some of those makeup/costume tests looking so clean. They were part of the blooper reel that circulated among fans as washed out bootlegs for years. Wonder if that's in the extras?

And that Romulan warbird looks stunning in the remaster.

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Looks like they're seriously considering giving DS9 the same treatment if the fans push for it.

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/#comiccon1

I think once they see the sales numbers for TNG, it'll be a no-brainer for them. I guess Trek will continue to bleed my wallet dry for many years to come...not that I mind.

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Star Trek: The Next Generation 25th Anniversary Event

Shown on the big screen at participating theaters.

Opens today July 23, 2012 (150) | Runtime:2 hr 30 min

They will be showing two restored episodes: "Where No One Has Gone Before" and "Datalore."' Also included are interviews with the cast and crew, and a look at the restoration of the show's first season.


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I got my ticket a month ago, excited.

Edit: Just got back. Very disappointed in the presentation. The blacks were washed out and the picture detail was very poor. I'd say it was on par with the original broadcasts. I'm sure the actual blu-rays will look far superior. Just another strike against AMC in my book.

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I can't wait till my Blus arrive :-)

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Edit: Just got back. Very disappointed in the presentation. The blacks were washed out and the picture detail was very poor. I'd say it was on par with the original broadcasts. I'm sure the actual blu-rays will look far superior. Just another strike against AMC in my book.

Reasons like this are why I go to single-screen theaters whenever possible. I could also do ArcLight cinemas, but they are expensive at $15 a ticket (with a premium on the weekend, 3D or not).

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Edit: Just got back. Very disappointed in the presentation. The blacks were washed out and the picture detail was very poor. I'd say it was on par with the original broadcasts. I'm sure the actual blu-rays will look far superior. Just another strike against AMC in my book.

I read at AVS that the digital projectors used for these events aren't the digital cinema projectors used for feature presentations, but the junky low-resolution ones used for the marketing garbage shown before the previews.

I'm just about to open my box set and watch Encounter at Farpoint. I'll post my impressions.

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