Info: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. We have actor for Anakin, need new dialogue fast — Page 2

Trooperman said:

^^That sounds great. A good improvement on the original!

I actually had kind of an off-the-wall idea for Grievous, which may or may not work.  He's an evil, eccentric robot who calls himself "Dr. Maul" and always refers to himself in the 3rd person.  It might bring back the comic-book villain feel from the OT. 

Why is he called Maul?  Maybe Palplatine programmed him that way in honor/memory of his fallen apprentice.  Or perhaps he IS Maul in some small way (he used Maul's heart or something small like that and then enshrined it in this robot).

It's the sort of crazy thing that wouldn't be out of character for Palpatine, considering that he does the same exact thing to Anakin at the end of the movie. 

I know Grievous=Maul has been discussed ad nauseum, but what if we don't get into that  and just let the audience wonder, "Why the heck does he call himself Maul, anyway?"

That's all fine and good. If you did it, it could be cool. Honestly though, I just wish we could Grevious more purpose besides just giving Obi-Wan something to do so Anakin can be alone to make bad decisions. =)

Trooperman said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Trooperman said:

^^That sounds great. A good improvement on the original!

I actually had kind of an off-the-wall idea for Grievous, which may or may not work.  He's an evil, eccentric robot who calls himself "Dr. Maul" and always refers to himself in the 3rd person.  It might bring back the comic-book villain feel from the OT. 

Why is he called Maul?  Maybe Palplatine programmed him that way in honor/memory of his fallen apprentice.  Or perhaps he IS Maul in some small way (he used Maul's heart or something small like that and then enshrined it in this robot).

It's the sort of crazy thing that wouldn't be out of character for Palpatine, considering that he does the same exact thing to Anakin at the end of the movie. 

I know Grievous=Maul has been discussed ad nauseum, but what if we don't get into that  and just let the audience wonder, "Why the heck does he call himself Maul, anyway?"

That's all fine and good. If you did it, it could be cool. Honestly though, I just wish we could Grevious more purpose besides just giving Obi-Wan something to do so Anakin can be alone to make bad decisions. =)

To be honest, I wish I could just cut out that entire part of the movie with Obi-Wan.  It is completely pointless and literally serves no other function than giving Obi-Wan something to do while Anakin turns bad.  But I'm already removing Yoda vs. Palpatine.  If you take this out too, what is there left?

Oh yeah, I know. You basically have to try and make it stronger somehow. That's why many were trying to make Grevious actually be a restructured Maul, because then you have a back story for Obi-Wan. The man who killed his master lives. Gives it purpose. But that would require an eye change.

Trooperman said:

To be honest, I wish I could just cut out that entire part of the movie with Obi-Wan.  It is completely pointless and literally serves no other function than giving Obi-Wan something to do while Anakin turns bad.  But I'm already removing Yoda vs. Palpatine.  If you take this out too, what is there left?

You're right, there's not much left. If the Doctor Maul idea (which I love) doesn't work out, you could leave out large portions of both Episodes 2 and 3, put them together, and call it a "Double Feature." Just an idea.

Trooperman said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Oh yeah, I know. You basically have to try and make it stronger somehow. That's why many were trying to make Grevious actually be a restructured Maul, because then you have a back story for Obi-Wan. The man who killed his master lives. Gives it purpose. But that would require an eye change.

What if his eyes weren't changed but he was still made out of pieces of Darth Maul?  Maybe all of his facial tattoos got seared off.  I don't know if we would actually get into all of that. 

I know that Maul was a man of few words in Episode I.  I wish the Grievous character were not so flamboyant and over-the-top, although that could probably be edited down. Turn him into a killing machine who only has a couple dozen lines in the movie. 

We discussed this a long time ago, but what would really be great to sell this would be a scene between Palpatine and Grievous, possibly a recut combining Hayden's Frankenstein scene and some Grievous close-ups.

Wait, I just had an idea.  Remember in "Empire Strikes Back" when Vader and Luke have this long, telepathic conversation? 

They were in two completely separate locations but they were calling out to each other.  Irvin Kershner did it with these really short fades. 

Could something similar be done here at the beginning of the movie? 

Palpatine: Darth Maul.....

Grievous: Lord Palpatine

Palpatine: My apprentice....

Grievous: My master.....

I really like this idea. It would be interesting if he was structured to look different and was renamed Grevious... But to have him be Maul, it needs to be revealed to Obi-Wan somehow otherwise it's pointless foreshadowing. Know what I mean? There has to be a payoff.

1990osu said:

^^During the lightsaber fight maybe?  I know it's been suggested before. 

True, and T-man already plans to redo the music there I believe....

T-man... Please don't vanish again....

Just to float an idea I posted on the Star Wars arm of the forums.

What if Anakin cries out "Nooo" as the helmet is being lowered and he is being sealed into his suit/cage and his cries are cut off by the helmet and then turn into James Earl Jones for a few seconds.

It could work.

If a fan edit can do the "nooooo" thing well alarm bells may ring.