Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!) — Page 324

TV's Frink said:

Souns like someone needs to either google Ric Olie or watch The Ridiculous Menace.

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Harmy said:

I see your point none but if we start demanding the "original" version of the end credits, while the other one was also made in 77 and is pretty much the same and definitely doesn't effectively change the film in any way, we would be totally playing into the cards of those who claim we are lunatics.

I actually believe that if there were two different versions during the original theatrical run, the most true original is the one that was most widely seen.

So would that be the 77 version and its release in foreign markets, or the 1981 version released many more times than the original before the 1997 changes were made.

They are identical except for the roll up being different and the starfield replacement as far as i know, i don't count minor fixes/changes to the credits as a change in the films story or soundtrack.

The 81 version is for all intents and purposes the same film, unless you are a greater nitpicker than me.

Lucasfilms made a virtual 77 DVD by editing the original crawl onto the existing gout video.  The sourced footage looks like better condition than the rest of the movie.

The 1993 mix is fairly close to the 77 stereo mix but not close enough for me.  Then put on the dvd in poor 2.0 dolby instead of PCM as the laserdiscs,lol.

So, I just saw a trailer for The Phantom Menace being shown in HD on a Czech TV channel and it had the digital Yoda, so it will apparently be the Blu-Ray master. Just thought it was interesting.

Last time I saw TPM on Spike, it was still Creepy Puppet Yoda. I missed it over the July 4 showings they were doing though.

SilverWook said:

Last time I saw TPM on Spike, it was still Creepy Puppet Yoda. I missed it over the July 4 showings they were doing though.

Last time I saw TPM I decided I didn't want to see TPM again.

;)

pittrek said:

Harmy, which Czech TV will air it and when please ? :-)

NOVA tomorrow at 20:20.

I don't watch the whole thing. I just check the Yoda scenes once in a while, as it's the fastest way to know what version they are running.

Frink's version is more fun anyway. ;)

*wag of the finger*

skyjedi2005 said:

Harmy said:

I see your point none but if we start demanding the "original" version of the end credits, while the other one was also made in 77 and is pretty much the same and definitely doesn't effectively change the film in any way, we would be totally playing into the cards of those who claim we are lunatics.

I actually believe that if there were two different versions during the original theatrical run, the most true original is the one that was most widely seen.

So would that be the 77 version and its release in foreign markets, or the 1981 version released many more times than the original before the 1997 changes were made.

There existed two versions of the end credits on the original film, see here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Credits-Leaders-Thread-was-Star-Wars-Pre-Re-release-Credit-Change-June-77/topic/12960/

If the revised credits first appeared on prints for foreign markets or on prints for the wide US release in the summer of '77 is hard to tell. If there would some day against all odds be a proper video release, it wouldn't kill me if not both credits were included, but it could easily be done as an nice extra like how it has been done on Apocalypse Now for example. I'm one of those crazy persons who consider the end credits to be a part of the film, and that's how I must be seen by others as I realize I'm in minority everytime I go to the cinema as me and the one I go with are usually left alone in the theater when the credits roll.

skyjedi2005 said:

They are identical except for the roll up being different and the starfield replacement as far as i know, i don't count minor fixes/changes to the credits as a change in the films story or soundtrack.

The 81 version is for all intents and purposes the same film, unless you are a greater nitpicker than me.

Then consider me a greater nitpicker than you. ;) The opening crawl and subsequent flyover shot in Star Wars is one of the most iconic moments in cinema history, when it was updated 4 years later, not only were the film given a new crawl and title change and an updated flyover sequence, John Williams score didn't longer match the reveal of the planet, and that always bothered me. It was Star Wars that took the world by storm not Episode IV - A New Hope.

msycamore said:

 I'm one of those crazy persons who consider the end credits to be a part of the film, and that's how I must be seen by others as I realize I'm in minority everytime I go to the cinema as me and the one I go with are usually left alone in the theater when the credits roll.

Me too.  I have been the last person in the theatre many times because I sat through all the ending credits to listen to the music. 

I almost feel guilty sometimes, because they're turning on the house lights and everyone is gone and I feel like I'm holding up the projectionist.

Don't feel guilty.  It always pisses me off when staff tries to make me feel guilty for staying.  I paid (far too much) to watch this movie.  This is part of the movie.  I'm entitled to watch it, thank you very much, so don't try to rush me out.  I can't tell you how much it pissed me (and the rest of the theatre) off when I went to see Yellow Submarine, and they just cut the projection off during the final song.

I aspire to one day be one of those people who's name is buried in the credits, the least they could do is show them all.

Gaffer Tape said:

I can't tell you how much it pissed me (and the rest of the theatre) off when I went to see Yellow Submarine, and they just cut the projection off during the final song.

That's really bad, never experienced such a thing. I thought there was only tv-stations that was able to get away with such things, you should've demanded to get your money back, but who does have the patience to go through the trouble. I guess filmmakers have at least done their attempts to get more of the audience to not rush out as soon as the credits starts to roll by including bloopers and secret endings etc. but it's mostly done on stupid comedies. That kind of thing doesn't exactly fit more serious films either.

And I agree, don't you ever feel guilty 1990osu, for sitting and taking in what you've just paid to see, and like you said, listen to the score, end credits suites are beautiful sometimes, I also find it kinda interesting sometimes with what industry people that was involved.

I would assume that the theater is under contract to show the credits, no?

I would think so, but without a 1-800-PHONE-THX type hotline around, who's going to fink on them?

I've had theaters shut the credits off on the final show of the night. Bad showmanship.

I think Star Wars was the movie that first made me want to stick around for the closing credits. And in the years that followed, I would start to recognize the names of all the ILM guys on other films.

So the remastered TPM is running on Czech TV right now. I'm not watching, but my dad is, because it's his favourite SW film, the reason for which is in his own words: "because it's the one with the gungans." He's also positively gleeful about it being dubbed to Czech and cropped to 16:9, so that it fills the whole screen. And I'm sure that if he knew that in this version all the grain was scrubbed, he'd be delighted too. I gave up on him in this regard a long time ago...

Harmy said:

I'm not watching, but my dad is, because it's his favourite SW film, the reason for which is in his own words: "because it's the one with the gungans."

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I guess he thinks they're funny and he likes the final battle with the droids.

The Gungans could be funny, in a movie not called Star Wars. ;)

I think this glitch in the left up corner is not present to the older versions of Star wars. Can anyone confirm?

We'll have to check that out (the inline link is broken, but you can open the link in a new tab and it shows up)