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frank678
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Info Wanted: the GOUT colors?
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16-Jun-2012, 9:20 AM

LexX said:

You_Too said:

I don't know about ESB and ROTJ, but I can tell you that in any version of SW the colors are inconsistent, and they've been confirmed to have been like that on some original prints as well.

But is the GOUT inconsistent because the film originally was or is it because it is GOUT?

It says here http://savestarwars.com/filmpreservation.html the original 1970s film stocks were unstable. Mike Verta talks about element damage here http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Color-correcting-the-Blu-Rays/post/548757/#TopicPost548757

and said on his forum that the colour seperations are missing elements.

So the original prints from the negative would be more consistent and then its been degrading organically since then. There might be a consitent linear pattern to a print fade (e.g. it gets pink, more pink, very pink, red) but it would be linear relative to the start and subsequent conditions being identical. If theres 4 different stocks within the film the fade couldnt fade in linear way across the whole film but only on the individual stock in linear conditions?

An ambitious person could start a thread and try to post up screengrabs of a still from every version of the film available and try and track fade patterns - however specific versions would have additional variations added in by the settings the transfer was done through and additional colour corrections added in (to either reverse colour loss/or for aesthetic reasons).

This is my understanding of the subject to date anyway.

My speculative idea is that the GOUT print is from the same source as the Technidisc print thats been through a cleaning solution (?) or printed on a different stock? which stabilizes the excess colour fluctuations-saturations of the Technidisc but the GOUT has not been colour corrected. The Technidisc has not been colour corrected. The special editions and the widescreen editions immediately prior to Technidisc seem all to have been tinted blue to dye-down the pink/red (not the JSC which I think is also not corrected). The special editions also have additional scene by scene corrections? This is all speculative and would welcome correction on this.