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TServo2049
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Info: Re-mixed audio tracks on video releases
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8-Jun-2012, 5:54 PM

captainsolo said:

TServo2049 said:

The Blu-ray includes a mono track...but it's a fold-down of the modern remix! All the other MGM Leone films include the original mono (albeit not lossless), but TGTBATU doesn't.

This is exactly what MGM did when they released a newly extended cut of Duck, You Sucker! on DVD. The "Mono" option was merely a folddown of the 5.1, and while it was nowhere near as intrusive as the bastard GBU mix, it features the wrong music in several spots!

Funny that, John Kirk says he changed nothing music wise, and Glenn "DVD Savant" Erickson, who worked at MGM when the uncut LD was released and knows more about the film than anyone, says the music matches both LDs.

But if the DVD indeed has "fake mono," then track down the 1998 A Fistful of Dynamite LD, which has both digital and CX mono.

Could the other two films also have fake mono?

It's better, easier and truer to simply leave the scenes in Italian and subtitled. That way you have the original effects and balancing the way it was mixed.

Agreed 100%. A hybrid Eng/Ita mono synched with the Mondo BD visual would be perfect.

BATMAN (1989) Blu-ray 5.1 TrueHD sounds shit because it was lowered 4Db.

Really? Hmm..wonder why they did that. I guess it's part of the Dolby Stereo to 5.1 conversion? All the films that have this done seem to lack the punch and rumble that I recall them having. With the move to discrete channels, there seems to be a loss of presence and a kind of analogue muddiness that I miss. (Just watched Last Crusade on DVD and thought it sounded a bit too polite.)

Who knows? Maybe it has to do with modern home surround tracks being tweaked for the smaller home setting? Mike Verta said something like that.

Since the JAWS Blu-ray is only going to have 7.1 DTS-HD MA, anyone have a high bitrate PCM track from the Signature Collection Laserdisc? Similar to what dark jedi did for The Terminator. Glad I have a Blu-ray disc burner but BD50s are expensive.

That would be the way to go, as the Blu will have a lossy mono as an afterthought. That said, with a decent receiver and speakers, lossy mono can be pretty effective.

Seconded, lossy is better than remix-only. That's why I'm still holding on to the 2001 DVD of T1.