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Never. I believe everything I said with a full heart.
And that is the saddest part of all.
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And that is the saddest part of all.
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he'll have to leave after a while...
unless he enjoys talking to himself...
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Never. I believe everything I said with a full heart.
your so fuckin hard headed its not even funny...
i would really like to know what makes you or your family so perfect...
after all you tell other people how they should live...
why not give us some insight into why the Jimbo family is so fitting in Gods image....
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i suggest everyone just ignore him...
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Never. I believe everything I said with a full heart.
your so fuckin hard headed its not even funny...
i would really like to know what makes you or your family so perfect...
after all you tell other people how they should live...
why not give us some insight into why the Jimbo family is so fitting in Gods image....
Its made up of a man and a women with children.
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LOL!
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My point is hating a gay person because they're gay(like God intended them to be) is the exact same as racism. Its unbrideled hatrid towards your fellow man. I before you say I'm some godless liberal, I'll have you know that I'm a confirmed Catholic. I have no problem with gays, jews, other races, etc. I'm part of no political party(though I would never vote republican), and am 100% heterosexual. However, I see no reason to force my lifestyle on someone. Being as I am isn't normal nor natural. Being gay isn't normal nor natural. You aren't normal nor natural. There is no such thing as being"normal" and nothing is truely "natural". We are all different, all unique, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Jimbo, I'll say this politely so as to not offend you, unlike what you have done to others. Hating someone because they are gay makes you a bigot. It makes you sound like a self-rightous "I'm right, you're wrong' person. Being a self-proclaimed homophobe is exactly the same as being a racest. You say it isn't because one can't choose their skin color, but it is. One can't choose who they fal in love with. It's not psychological, it's natural. One can choose to hate someone because of a minor fact, however. Hating a gay person is exactly like hating a black person in that way. You are basing your opinion of them on their sexual preference and not on the individual. You don't give these people a chance, when they are human, like you and me. There is no more of a homo disease as there is actual physical proof of the existence of ADD(they don't exist). Its merely the individuals behavior. Saying that gays have no right to marry can be equated to say women shoudn't vote.(in a, after all, they aren't men, why should they be given men's natural rights, kind of way). Saying it opens the door to child molesters is utter bullshit, its nothing of the sort.
My point is hating a gay person because they're gay(like God intended them to be) is the exact same as racism. Its unbrideled hatrid towards your fellow man. I before you say I'm some godless liberal, I'll have you know that I'm a confirmed Catholic. I have no problem with gays, jews, other races, etc. I'm part of no political party(though I would never vote republican), and am 100% heterosexual. However, I see no reason to force my lifestyle on someone. Being as I am isn't normal nor natural. Being gay isn't normal nor natural. You aren't normal nor natural. There is no such thing as being"normal" and nothing is truely "natural". We are all different, all unique, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Being gay is a mental disorder. A disease. They are not normal. It is all psychological. They choose to be gay in the same way I choose to hate gays.
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Hmmm, probably a Llama taking a sh*t.
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while I've haven't agreed with many of your comments posted in other Star Wars related threads in this Forum, I have respected your right to express your opinion, and I think on the most part you have triggered some healthy debate within the forum, but dude, you totally lost any credibility you might have had when you began spewing the redneck crap in this thread.
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Yeah, and an empty head !
As a Gay Man, who also happens to be a Star Wars fan, I never thought I'd be defending my sexuality on a Star Wars forum, can I suggest that this thread be nuked and we all get back to the reason why we are, and that is to discuss and debate our common love of all things STAR WARS!
POST YOUR HATRED ELSEWHERE!!!!
Remember Fear, Anger & Hate all lead to the Darkside!!
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I'll start the voting with a 'YES.'
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Perhaps we should start a poll: Should Jimbo be permanently banned?
I'll start the voting with a 'YES.'
Talk about spreading hate
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Being gay is a mental disorder. A disease. They are not normal. It is all psychological. They choose to be gay in the same way I choose to hate gays.
It's quite obvious that Jimbo hasn't done his psychology homework. Being gay was denounced as a mental disorder by the psychologists decades ago. All this is Jimbo, is your narrow minded bigoted view point. Hatred is the disease and you are obviously a carrier.
And further more, every psychological study done in the last 20 years has stated that a persons sexual orientation is fixed and unchangable. There is no 'choice' involved. Perhaps you should do a little research before you spout off about something you obviously know nothing about. However, doing research would mean that you're willing to educate yourself and judging by your previous blabberings I don't see that happening.
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Talk about spreading hate
You're the one spreading the hate around here.
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Being gay is a mental disorder. A disease. They are not normal. It is all psychological. They choose to be gay in the same way I choose to hate gays.
Hey, I tried being nice. I would rather choose to be gay than choose to hate someone because of it. Hating someone for a beleif/preference is wrong. It's plain and simple. As such, I don't hate you, Jimbo, only your narrow and misguided views. Plus, you contradict yourself. You say that it's a mental disorder, then say that they choose to be that way. You say that you'd never hate someone because of their skin color, since they can't choose it, yet you hate people with a so-called "mental disorder". One doesn't choose to have some "disease" or "mental disorder". These are contradictions to your own statements. By your own statements, your view on gays is the exact same as a rascist view on people of different cultures. So not only are you a bigot, but a contradictory one. The point mute however, since being gay falls into neither. Show me proof of this "disorder', scientific proof. Medical science has no physical proof of ADD, yet they continue to prescribe medicine for it(its nothing but behavoir patterns with some chemical defiencies nothing more). By that reason, if homosexuality is a "disease", as you claim, finding hard evidence to back it up should be easy. Either that, or admit that you're a discriminatory bigot(you support segregation, which leads to fascism), then drop this subject, and let us all get back to discussing Star Wars. I respect intelligent, educated opinions. I do not respect hate-mongering disguised as opinion.
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Moll.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
Perhaps we should start a poll: Should Jimbo be permanently banned?
I'll start the voting with a 'YES.'
Talk about spreading hate
It's not hate, Jimbo. I've tried to be reasonable with you for awhile now. I've given you the benefit of the doubt on a lot of issues. But you've shown you won't change or respect the viewpoints of others. I don't particularly agree with the gay lifestyle, but you don't see me spewing hatred, because disagreement and hatred are two different things. I am a Christian, and Christians are supposed to love, and even though the typical Christian mindset these days is that 'God hates gays,' I find that to be in complete conflict with the Gospels, since love has always been the root Christian principal, though the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells have done their best to skew that. I hope everyone can see the difference between disagreement and hatred in this situation, because I'm not trying to give anyone the wrong impression.
Jimbo, I have no problem with you expressing your opinion on these boards, but you do nothing but take those opinions and shove them at other people and tear those other people to shreds because you don't agree with them. You always seem to have something against new posters as well, and you've managed to scare away many of them. You are rude and hateful and we quite simply don't need it any more.
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You are rude and hateful and we quite simply don't need it any more.
I'll second that.
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Polls taken this year show 55% of the country is opposed to gay marriage. Which is why I wonder why the other 45% of the popultation take such a majority on this site.
This has nothing to do with proving that being gay is a disease or a mental disorder. Once again, you avoid answering the question by spouting useless information.
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Polls taken this year show 55% of the country is opposed to gay marriage. Which is why I wonder why the other 45% of the popultation take such a majority on this site.
Polls mean nothing. There was a poll of about 50,000 people on whether they will buy the DVD come fall. Only about 15,000 said they will, with the majority of the naisayers either not care, or despise the SEs. By your reason then, this means the majority of the people either hate Star Wars, or they hate the SEs. You keep pointing out that the discs are flying off the perverbial shelf, so that proves that the poll only represents a small portion of the community. It's like how the majority of the American people are liberal, yet due to the vocal conservative minority(especally the mostly conservative media) one would believe otherwise.
This leads me to this question based on your above statement then. Why are you on this forum? If you believe the overwelming majority disagrees with you, why stay? It's like an anime fan on a board full of people who despise anime. You yourself state that you wish to discuss things with people of other views, and that's fine. That is the point of a forum after all; to share one's opinion. But your behavior appears to go deeper than that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you enjoy arguing. You enjoy rubbing your views on others. You seem to take delight in trying to prove others wrong. Showing someone your view, while seeing their's is what should go on in any respectable forum. You seem to want to maliciously change the views of those around you. It's like the only reason you're here is to argue. That's called being an agitaitor, or troll in forum terms. We try to respect your opinion, you don't seem to want to respect ours. Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe you're a masocist. Maybe you enjoy having others argue with you to the point that it upsets you. This is another natural thing, but you'll find that having a strong negative opinion only complicates life. Pick your battles carefully, this view of yours is an uphill one, and it's not only a lost one, but an unjust one as well.
I tend to let the comments of others get to me. I don't know why I do it; after all, it's often a harmless brushoff that means nothing to the commentator. Depending on how one phases a comment, even the most simple of remarks can come off as a slam to me or anyone. The english language is quirky like that. I've been teaching myself to ignore these comments, instead looking for the true meaning behind said comments. This is why I've yet to truly rip you a new one at the moment. Arguing is a foolish waste of a man's intellect and time. Arguements held on the internet are even more worthless, as most people tend to not take a line of text seriously without the vehemence the spoken words would carry. So in the end, we are all wasting one anothers' precious time and dignity. Both sides are set in their ways, each unbending to the other's will. As such, this debate(if this can truly be called one) is a pointless one. It serves no use to this forum other then harse feelings, sharp tongues, and stinging wounds that are hard to heal. In a more public forum, this thread would have long ago been locked. In the end, we are all fools. Jimbo's a fool for picking a fight in favor of negativity. The rest of us, myself included, are fools for trying to prove him wrong, when he shows no sign of giving way to insult, threat, or, for the love of all things, reason. Since nobody will probably read this post, I'd be furture wasting my beath and time trying to stregthen my side of the arguement. As such, this will, hopefully, be my last post on the issue.
Baka Baka.
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However, at this point it's doing me no good to continue to battle the point with him. Ignoring him is best.
Advise taken. It's time to move on and let this thread die. Thanks for the dose of reality, logic and level headedness.
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Most religions do not practice hate of any kind. It can be preverted to justify hate like with Nazism and the KKK with Christianity or some of these radical groups we are seeing in the middle East with Muslim/Islam. Those groups do much work to make that entire religion or portion of the world to look bad, because motivated hate seems to draw the most attention.
Jimbo, while the Bible does not condone homosexuality, it does not preach hate either. Are you deeply relgious? Do you remember Jesus saying some of the filthy, wretched hateful things you are saying? I don't. What's more the bible teaches that premarital sex is a sin and living with a partner of even the opposite sex prior to marriage is living in sin. And the Bible teaches Sin is sin, very simply. Are you above reproach then? You have no place to judge blanketly and justify hate with religion.
You need to really look in the mirror at your own issues. Maybe its time for you to get right with God, Jimbo. Erase the hate man...its just not cool here on this board. Or anywhere else. Hate is the disease if your looking for one. And you're sick, bro.
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hell create a thread if you want even if its just to knock it into his head that he could get kicked off here....
because im sick of putting up with his shit....
jimbo you said your family is perfect because you were raised by a man and a woman right?
well what if the father was a pedophile rapist and the woman was an alcoholic?
would that still be better than being raised by pair of gay parents?
you so uneducated its not even funny...
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All of this said, when I see someone ruining the place we hang out for friendship and worse still, singling out some of my friends with hateful comments; I will defend them.
Jimbo, I do believe it is time you got IP banned from this board. And maybe there is a place for you where people find pleasure out of hateful comments and harsh criticism. But its not here, not with me, and apparently not with most of my friends.