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Hey there good people of the original trilogy forum, is it possible that I would be able to have a Myspleen invite. This project looks freaking awesome and I would love to check it out.

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Ok, it's finally time for an update! I know some people have really waited for it.

Like we said earlier, we took a break for some weeks after the not so successful last renders with the color bleeding, flickering etc. After that, I changed our script a lot and also found what caused the bleeding and managed to find a safe method for us to do this with the result coming out perfect.

The script is now using a motion-compensated antialiasing which also reduces the flicker a lot. It digs up even more detail from within the grain than the old script so what comes out is about as good as the GOUT can possibly look.

There's some other stuff included too like stabilization of the gate weave and some slight automatic dirt removal. Before the older script I spent weeks on finding the best setting for the dirt removal, since not only did it's default settings remove stars in space-scenes, it also caused even more smearing. Now it's set to only remove dark dirt, which means it leaves the stars and other bright stuff intact. It's also very careful with what dirt it removes so it's not all removed, only some of the worst. This especially works great in scenes where most of the picture isn't moving. And yes, it is carefully tested in all kinds of scenes so no worries!

What we're currently working on is what we called cleanup of bad frames. We've been going through the films frame by frame, writing down every point where there's something very distracting like glue marks, burn marks, big dirt spots, dirt in people's faces or other points of focus, sudden scene-shift flashes etc. DJ then extracts these parts as image files and I clean them up in photoshop.

Naturally, this means a lot of work for both DJ and me since there's hundreds of these frames in each film, but we both agreed that it will be worth it in the end. (I even tried making a script that did this automatically but it looked horrible compared to doing it manually.)

Note that we won't clean up color errors, (such as Vader's green lights being red) DVNR errors, (like blaster bolts being completely removed from some frames) or stuff like the 4-eyed trooper. All those things would take an eternity to fix and require even more frame by frame analyzing work.

Anyway, here are some samples for you of before and after cleanup. (Click the pics for full size)

Glue marks in the bottom of the frame:

Dirt and smearing after a scene-shift:

Dirt and colored flash before an angle-shift: (This one was extremely tough to clean up properly)

 

As you probably understand, this process will take months to complete and we can't possibly tell when it will be finished. Once the cleanup is done, DJ has some huge script work to do to reinsert all the extracted parts.

We hope that all who are interested in this project will wait, no matter how long it takes, because we believe it will be worth it.

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Just what kind of dark magic are you guys casting to get the GOUT looking like that?  I was really impressed when I first watched DJ's Blu-ray set last year, but this is just... wow!  I'll happily wait as long as it takes if those screen captures are indicative of the final product.  Seriously great work here, guys! 

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there is the 97/2004 SE for some of the DVNR'd scenes like the 4 eyed stormtrooper and Luke in Bens hut which with some separate colour correction would fit in fine

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You_Too said:

The script is now using a motion-compensated antialiasing which also reduces the flicker a lot. It digs up even more detail from within the grain than the old script so what comes out is about as good as the GOUT can possibly look.

There's some other stuff included too like stabilization of the gate weave and some slight automatic dirt removal. Before the older script I spent weeks on finding the best setting for the dirt removal, since not only did it's default settings remove stars in space-scenes, it also caused even more smearing. Now it's set to only remove dark dirt, which means it leaves the stars and other bright stuff intact. It's also very careful with what dirt it removes so it's not all removed, only some of the worst. This especially works great in scenes where most of the picture isn't moving. And yes, it is carefully tested in all kinds of scenes so no worries!

Indeed. These are some really tricky but great things to take a look at improving. That bit about increased grain detail is already wetting my appetite!

What we're currently working on is what we called cleanup of bad frames. We've been going through the films frame by frame, writing down every point where there's something very distracting like glue marks, burn marks, big dirt spots, dirt in people's faces or other points of focus, sudden scene-shift flashes etc. DJ then extracts these parts as image files and I clean them up in photoshop.

Naturally, this means a lot of work for both DJ and me since there's hundreds of these frames in each film, but we both agreed that it will be worth it in the end. (I even tried making a script that did this automatically but it looked horrible compared to doing it manually.)

Note that we won't clean up color errors, (such as Vader's green lights being red) DVNR errors, (like blaster bolts being completely removed from some frames) or stuff like the 4-eyed trooper. All those things would take an eternity to fix and require even more frame by frame analyzing work.

It's already going to be a chore cleaning frames. I don't know how you'd go about repairing DNVR erased information other than matching to adjacent frames.

Wow, that looks really good-especially the glue and flash removals!

As you probably understand, this process will take months to complete and we can't possibly tell when it will be finished. Once the cleanup is done, DJ has some huge script work to do to reinsert all the extracted parts.

We hope that all who are interested in this project will wait, no matter how long it takes, because we believe it will be worth it.

GOUT now becomes Glorified Original Unaltered Trilogy. ;)

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Great news, awesome pics, keep up the good work!

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toho-scope said:

there is the 97/2004 SE for some of the DVNR'd scenes like the 4 eyed stormtrooper and Luke in Bens hut which with some separate colour correction would fit in fine

The 2004 SE wouldn't fit in that good since it's much "cleaner" than the GOUT. It would be very visible at which parts it had been used to fix it. The 97 SE is more rough-looking.

But like I've said, we have too much to do already! And on the other hand, the same smearing as in the 4-eyed trooper scene is all over the movie, it's just more visible in some parts than others. If fixing those parts, they might even look weird and stand out being clean instead of moving along like the other parts.

Instead, think about how much has actually been improved!

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Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread, but are you putting back the 1 or 2 missing frames per film that were present on the PAL versions and are missing from the NTSC?  I know you're using the PAL version of Jedi, but I think it's missing a frame compared with the NTSC.

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Thank you for the update You-Too. Its good to know the GOUT is in good hands.

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schorman13 said:

Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread, but are you putting back the 1 or 2 missing frames per film that were present on the PAL versions and are missing from the NTSC?  I know you're using the PAL version of Jedi, but I think it's missing a frame compared with the NTSC.

If you mean frames that are completely missing, we won't do it. If you mean the ones looking like they were badly deinterlaced we will fix them.

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Wow! I haven't been active on this forum for a couple of years, and I thought that I would never se Star Wars in good quality... Got a bunch of old LD-transfers that has done the trick somewhat so far. But after stumbling back on OT.com and reading this thread, there is definitely hope.

Good work guys, I hope you can hang in there all the way to the end.

Cheers!

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Wow, it's been a couple of years since I've been here and seeing as GL has decided to make additional changes to the BD set, I am eagerly awaiting this BD25 set.  Looks incredible.  My problem is I don't have download capability so I'd have to get the actual software if anyone can help me out when the project is completed.

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Thanks everyone for your nice comments! Makes it feel even better to work on this project, knowing that you appreciate it.

Here's another little teaser for you guys: (click for full size)

The theatrical subs are layered over the film before the upscaling, to create the illusion of them being part of the source.

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Looks spot on. You and DJ are a super talented pair. Be proud guys.

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Glad I checked back in. Happy to hear you guys are back at work on this. All the hard work will pay off in the end. The screenshots look amazing. I know I speak for everyone when I say how much we appreciate the effort!

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Awesome work, You_Too!  I just recently watched DJ's V3 for the first time on my 56" tv and was surprised at how good it looked, especially when compared to the GOUT.  It's nice to know it will look even better after your latest improvements.

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dark_jedi said:



subs - English, English SDH, Swedish, French, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Spanish, Danish, Brazilian Portuguese

I see you plan to include non-english subs for the Blu-Ray version, any plans to also include any foreign dubs?

Here somebody uploaded the German soundfiles (matched for 24p) if that helps. I guess there are also some Italian, French, Spanish, etc. people here who could provide you with the soundfiles for their languages.

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Back when we talked about the subs, DJ told me he won't include any foreign audio. I think it's because of the already included tracks filling up the disc along with the video track. So those who want foreign audio will probably have to remux the discs themselves.

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I keep missing out on the MySpleen invites... if their server is back up and someone would be willing to give me an invite, I would really appreciate it.

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Thank you so much for the quick reply and invite!  downloading as I type...  can't wait

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These really look great. Can't wait to get my hands on them. Could also use a myslpeen invite, which would be much appreciated.