Warbler said:
I don't blame Gordon or Batman at all for what happened to Harvey. Joker is to blame for that.
I don't blame them either. But you're not the one going around killing people, and neither am I, so it doesn't really matter if we blame them or not. I'm just trying to tell you why Harvey blames them, because that's what matters.
now a days, the comics seem change significantly all the time if you ask me. I think I've lost count of the number different Robins there have been in the past 15 years.
Most stories move like a progressing line. Comic books are like a hub. They branch out in one direction for a while before getting scared and returning to the status quo. Then they go out in another direction and come back. Occasionally, the hub shifts a few inches in one direction and re-centers itself from there. Obviously there are benefits to that. If Batman hadn't stayed largely the same, he wouldn't have lasted 70+ years, but there is a reason why comics are having a harder and harder time gaining an audience, and that's why, in my opinion.
Warbler said:
Gaffer Tape said: Harvey Dent/Two-Face got an entire movie to steal the spotlight. I don't think he needed another one. What we got was perfect, in my opinion.
I could be wrong, but TDK seemed to be Joker's movie, not Harvey/Two-Face's. Two-Face was only in the movie for a very brief time.
That's like saying that an earthquake disaster movie is about the earthquake. The Joker did things, which propelled a bunch of people into action, but the movie was never about him. He was never a pivotal character. We never learned about him. He never changed or engaged with anyone. He just did things. Hell, that last sentence is pretty much a direct quote of one of his own lines. That's nothing against The Joker character or the performance. They're both great, and I love it, but the movie has nothing to do with him. It's about Bruce and Harvey: the former putting his trust in the latter to be the symbol he can't be, and the latter becoming corrupted and broken despite his belief in true justice. The Joker is simply the catalyst in all of this.