Warbler said:
SilverWook said:
Warbler said:
the only real problem I had with the 2009 movie was the Spock/Uhura relationship. It seems very out of character for a logical and unemotional Vulcan.
Half Vulcan.
again with the half Vulcan stuff. From what I know, Vulcans naturally have emotions. They become logical and unemotional through training and discipline. Therefore, since Spock when through the training and discipline, the fact that he is half human is meaningless.
On the biological level, it may or may not be important. But on the psychological level, it is. He's always known that he's half-human, and thus has some amount of curiosity about his emotions, given that one of his parents doesn't repress. He wants to repress like other Vulcans... but sometimes he wonders.
SilverWook said:
And having a thing for human females runs in the family.
I presume you were talking about Spock's father, Sarek. Him being married human was explained. Sarek was an ambassador, marrying a human allowed him to learn and understand them better. It was logical.
Legit point.
SilverWook said:
Uhura was flirting with Spock in "The Man Trap". That scene was cut from syndication prints for decades.
true, but they never ended up in a relationship.
And Vulcan was never destroyed either. This right here is an alternate timeline. The attraction is there, as the characters are mostly still themselves, but differing events result in differing outcomes.
SilverWook said:
Spock seemed kind of emotional, and even smiled in "The Cage".
at that time, they were still developing the character.
Clearly you've never run into the fans who rationalize every bizarre inconsistency in TOS into canon. I can talk about this if you want.
SilverWook said:
He has never been an unemotional character. He's just pretty good at concealing his emotions most of the time. That internal struggle with his human half is one thing that makes him more interesting.
true, but wouldn't concealing his emotions also mean concealing any feelings he has for women?
Yeah, if he was a good Vulcan.
SilverWook said:
A plot point that is sometimes overlooked in TMP is Spock's realization after his mind meld with V'Ger. "Logic is not enough." In this new timeline, he may have had that epiphany sooner.
sorry not buying it. And even have TMP, Spock never had a relationship.
To me it just doesn't make sense to have him acting logical and unemotional, but then go have this romantic relationship with Uhura.
As much as I see where you're coming from, I think it works.