Honestly, while there are flaws with this edit, there are just some genius ideas here. Absolute genius.
All though I'm not loving some of the music changes.
Thanks very much for watching and for commenting. The great thing about this was that it was based on feedback and help from the community. I got tremendous help from MtHaslett, Nanner Split (recorded Lama-Su), Sluggo, hairy_hen, Adywan on a couple shots...the list goes on. This was a popular project back in the day!
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
My signature is very dated, by the way. I still haven't completely gotten used to this new forum software...
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Trooperman said:
Thanks very much for watching and for commenting. The great thing about this was that it was based on feedback and help from the community. I got tremendous help from MtHaslett, Nanner Split (recorded Lama-Su), Sluggo, hairy_hen, Adywan on a couple shots...the list goes on. This was a popular project back in the day!
Well I thank you sir. You've certainly given me a lot of new ideas on how to move forward in future edits.
Honestly, well done. Though I'm curious...do you have any intention of completing it? I'd kill to see a final version.
Certain scenes with Anakin and Padme (you know the ones...) are still painful to watch and should be cut or reworked, but this is hardly your fault. On the whole it's a fantastic improvement and I've taken the main characters seriously for the first time.
Hi guys,
I'm really sorry- I think I accidentally left out a whole chunk of the movie.
Between parts 3 and 4 there are over 13 additional minutes. I'll try to upload "part 3.5" tomorrow.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Hey Trooperman!
It's always nice when you make a Special Guest Appearance :D
If there's any part of you that's willing, I still think you should make an effort to finish this up. After all these years, it still manages to impress many people (including me).
If you need a refresher, here's a post you wrote in November 0f 2009, on getting "the movie in at least a watchable condition":
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-II-Shroud-of-the-Dark-Side-rough-cut-now-on-youtube/post/386218/#TopicPost386218
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Erikstormtrooper said:
Hey Trooperman!
It's always nice when you make a Special Guest Appearance :D
If there's any part of you that's willing, I still think you should make an effort to finish this up. After all these years, it still manages to impress many people (including me).
If you need a refresher, here's a post you wrote in November 0f 2009, on getting "the movie in at least a watchable condition":
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-II-Shroud-of-the-Dark-Side-rough-cut-now-on-youtube/post/386218/#TopicPost386218
This! And let me also say I can still be involved if need be... And it doesn't have to be isolated to color correction.
EDITED to remove link.
Erikstormtrooper, you're exploiting my soft spot. You know I don't like to leave things unfinished....
OK, so what if I were to pull this back out again? What would make a "new version" worth it?
1. New, better color correction
2. Dubbing. Lama-Su is the only new dub I can keep from the rough cut. All else must go. EDIT: Forgot Nute Gunray. Will leave Nute as-is. It blends well into the movie.
3. Creative changes
f I can somehow get professional sounding ADR recordings (matching the rough cut dialogue) for:
1. Anakin
2. Jar-Jar Binks
3. Owen Lars
4. Mas Amedda (the blue alien)
Then I will do my part and, barring any unforeseen problems, I will put out another version of this.
In addition, if anybody is able to recut any scene from the movie with better color correction and an HD source, let me know and I will digitally "splice" it into my current DVD-9 file. The final result in this case would still be DVD, but when you use HD as a source and then re-encode (for color) the DVD will look sharper.
But these are two components that don't actually require any information from me (since my rough cut is on the internet for now). These are: New Video cut to match the rough cut (sourced off of the HD and recolored), and New Dubbing.
At a bare minimum, if I can get those 4 dubs sounding good enough, I will put them into the rough cut and then focus on the audio. I would really enjoy a new video track, but it's not actually necessary- and I wouldn't want anybody to waste time on that until we had dubs that could work.
I also need to see what all is what because my video PC crashed several months go. Not to worry because it is backed up on hard drive mostly, but I think I may have lost a folder of assorted audio files ("elements" in the "mix") which could cause various problems and be generally a pain to work through again. If I'm actually resurrecting the EDITABLE audio on this (a collection of hundreds of different files) I'd also need to re-specify the file paths on everything because everything is on the hard drive and nothing will be where the project files expect it to be....
It would be a logistic nightmare, that's all. All the project files are on old software and I haven't touched those actual files for 5 years.
But if I have those 4 professional sounding dubs, then I will do it.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
(edited for content)
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
I can probably help you color correct.... Aside from geonosis.... What other things need to be altered? What will you edit on?
I suppose I would edit on Vegas 5.0 the way I had done in the rough cut. Not being able to work off of the rough cut audio mix would be a nightmare and I'd have to basically remake the audio from scratch.
EDIT: Although if I decided to do that I would redo it in 5.1. The original idea was encoding matrixed 4.1 PCM, but I don't know how many people have the Pro-Logic decoders anymore.
And in that case I would buy newer, faster editing software that I could use on the mac. Something like Final Cut Pro.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
This edit has a lot of promise :D
I'd love to get involved somehow. I could do a voice. I'm an actor, and I have access to professional recording equipment.
Trooperman said:
Erikstormtrooper, you're exploiting my soft spot. You know I don't like to leave things unfinished....
"Exploiting" is a little harsh, but if that's what it takes to get things rolling...
:D
Glad to see you're thinking about this. I just think this should be out there for everyone to enjoy. It may inspire someone to do their own edit of Episode II.
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Erikstormtrooper said:
Trooperman said:
Erikstormtrooper, you're exploiting my soft spot. You know I don't like to leave things unfinished...."Exploiting" is a little harsh, but if that's what it takes to get things rolling...
:D
Glad to see you're thinking about this. I just think this should be out there for everyone to enjoy. It may inspire someone to do their own edit of Episode II.
Hell yeah! Zombie edit everyone! Let's resurrect this baby!
It would be very exciting if you did continue with this project, TM. I've lost count of how many times I've watched it for inspiration since I got my copy. I'd never seen an edit before with this much promise.
I think the voice work is the biggest hurdle to get over. Your new Lama Su voice was pretty perfect, but all the others needed better execution. Once the voices are done, rebuilding the sound mix to accommodate dialogue/music changes is the next big challenge which, whilst tedious, isn't a huge deal I don't think. It just requires time, patience and dedication in finding replacement sound effects.
I don't know how I could help out, but I'd be happy to lend a hand in any way you can think of :-)
Well Erik, I think deep down I want to finish this thing, so I don't blame you at all for putting the pressure on me...
Thanks for the comments and offers for help. I'll seriously think about this, and hopefully a couple more actors come forward because if we have those ADR tracks sounding good, then I definitely think it will be worth it to re-edit this zombie edit. Maybe call it Episode II: Attack of the Killer Zombies...
But seriously, it's all about the dubbing. I actually read the 1st page of this thread just a little bit ago (I was young then!) and that was the problem from the very beginning- how do we get professional sounding dubs?
If this basic issue can be solved, again, that would definitely give me the motivation to do whatever it took to go back to the drawing board and finish this up.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Well, count me in for some voice acting! I can upload a demo track of some voices I can do.
Anything that will put this edit back in the game.
Fantastic! What characters would you like to try? We could do this over PMs if you like.
-TM
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Project closed until further notice. The film has been taken off of youtube and will not be available for further viewing.
I thought that it was covered under the fair use clause in copyright law, but I now understand that making this available without obtaining prior written license has the potential to be an infringement of copyright.
Needless to say, I do not, cannot, and have never supported the intentional breaking of copyright law. Therefore, this project must end.
For details on why this happened, PM me.
Thanks,
-TM
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Errr....just because youtube took the videos down doesn't mean you have to give up on the edit. Nor does it mean that it can't be distributed through the usual channels where it's understood that the downloader must own the original works.
Fair enough if you don't want to carry on, but don't let youtube be the reason :-p
brash_stryker said:
Fair enough if you don't want to carry on, but don't let youtube be the reason :-p
It's not. Suffice it to say that I have been warned.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
I am shocked, shocked to find editing going on in this establishment.
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition
Er, what?
^This. Why raise an objection to it now?
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em