negative1 said:

TServo2049 said:

That cropping chart is not correct. You stretched a 16:9 TV overscan chart out to 2.35:1.

i agree it might be off.

but we are comparing the gout DVD, which is for TV

and home releases right?

regardless, its a guide for the cropping, and it matches

up pretty well for the amounts most of the time.

The GOUT was letterboxed for 4:3 TVs. Old widescreen transfers followed different rules - they weren't concerned with TV overscan because there was so much black space on the top and bottom.

Sometimes, old widescreen masters were cropped more so the image wouldn't suffer on smaller TVs. Sometimes it was just on the left and right (I know of old laserdiscs of 2.35:1 films that are 2.20:1 or even 2.10:1), other times it was all four sides (also known as "zoomboxing").

That image is not a guide for 2.35:1 cropping. The safe zone boxes are not the right width. It is a guide for 16:9 films on 16:9 TVs - notice that it has a separate line for 2.39:1 letterbox.

And actually, the example images you just posted are about 2.20:1 - shouldn't they be wider?

I'm just kind of confused. I thought that we were comparing the GOUT cropping to the the amount of cropping that would happen in movie theaters - that's why I went to all the trouble of making that chart I just posted.