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evan1975 said:

I think the kids that grew up with the PT will have an easier time dealing with it than those of us that were adults during The Great Disappointment of '99.

I was 7 when Jedi came out, so the Ewoks never really bothered me.  At that age, you could have had Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy appear in the Lapti Nek scene and I would have accepted it.  When I came out of the theater in 83, I probably would have told you it was the best of the three.

When I got older, I realized that it was actually the worst of the three and that those criticisms that my parents and other adults had about the film were totally correct.  (I remember my mother groaning about how stupid "Leia is my sister" was.)

Even though I know the Ewoks were a calculated marketing scheme, they still don't bother me.  I don't love them, I don't hate them.  Perhaps they've even grown on me a bit more now that I see how much worse it can get.  I'd rather watch an Ewok than a Gungan any day.

But I didn't grow up with the PT, I grew up with the OOT on old VHS tapes.

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Regarding the quality of the 3D, picture, and background, I thought that even in scenes where it wasn't obvious, the depth was still there for sure.  Yes, I too lifted my glasses every now and then to see the difference, but upon lowering them again the 3D effect was quite clear.  My eyes just needed a "refresh".  The picture itself seemed very, very clear to me, certainly not like an upscaled DVD.  And things in the background were not blurred at all (I even noticed things I'd never seen before, like a Gungan and droid wrestling over a blaster during the battle on the Naboo Plains).  Maybe I just saw it in a really good theater. *shrugs*

I am NOT saying TPM is a theatrical masterpiece, none of the prequels are legendary.  I'm just not going to say they're awful pieces of crap, either, because I appreciate them for what they are (films on their own, not films to be compared and dissected with the O(O)T).  I won't deny I rolled my eyes a few times at Jar Jar's antics or Anakin's "yippee!!", but I also won't deny that it was fun being in the galaxy far, far away in a theater, story and characters aside.

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All I can say is the presentation I saw left a lot to be desired.  It was a realD presentation. I also thought it was very dark and the slight green tint the glasses have also added to the dreadful picture.

I was honestly very disappointed. I'm not TPM's biggest fan but was curious to see it 3d but hey ho, as you say it could be our local cinema's fault but I wont be going to see it again to compare.

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It's too bad this didn't get an IMAX release (Journey 2 had that staked out). That way, for 18 bucks, the people who saw this could've been guaranteed a great audio/visual experience. Instead, it sounds like a lot of people are paying 16 bucks and getting swindled. Even if everyone is seeing this in real-d and not one of the offbrand 3d techniques like dolby or xpand, there's still a lot of variables like the type of projector being used. With IMAX, a lot of those variables are taken out of the equation.

Then again, it may simply be that moviegoers have different expectations for their 3D presentations. What's crap quality to one person might be amazing to another.

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LexX said:

In Finland TPM 3D has pretty much flopped. In 1999 it was the most watched movie with 439 496 viewers. Now in two weeks it has been seen by 6 936 viewers. In its first week it finished at 7th place and on second week it isn't even in the top 10. For example the latest Mission: Impossible movie had 13 928 viewers last week (from the total of 106 601, it was released 3 weeks ago) to give you some perspective.

Edit: maybe a better example would be Lion King 3D which has now been seen by over 15 000 people here. I guess 3D releases of old movies aren't that popular here, but to be fair, both were just released on BD just last year.

I assume in Finland it is subtitled? Or is it dubbed? I ask because I'm curious what sort of pricetag the film would even come with there. At about 7000 viewers with an average ticket price of $10USD or so, I don't think that would even cover the cost of the prints, let alone all the extra work done for foreign releases. Although to be fair, the film seems to be doing exceptionally poorly in Finland compared to many other European countries.

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zombie84 said:

LexX said:

In Finland TPM 3D has pretty much flopped. In 1999 it was the most watched movie with 439 496 viewers. Now in two weeks it has been seen by 6 936 viewers. In its first week it finished at 7th place and on second week it isn't even in the top 10. For example the latest Mission: Impossible movie had 13 928 viewers last week (from the total of 106 601, it was released 3 weeks ago) to give you some perspective.

Edit: maybe a better example would be Lion King 3D which has now been seen by over 15 000 people here. I guess 3D releases of old movies aren't that popular here, but to be fair, both were just released on BD just last year.

I assume in Finland it is subtitled? Or is it dubbed? I ask because I'm curious what sort of pricetag the film would even come with there. At about 7000 viewers with an average ticket price of $10USD or so, I don't think that would even cover the cost of the prints, let alone all the extra work done for foreign releases. Although to be fair, the film seems to be doing exceptionally poorly in Finland compared to many other European countries.

The films are subtitled. 3D prices are from 8 euros to 13 euros depending on the time, day and place. That's pretty much what I was thinnking about, too, does the revenue even cover the prints. But hey, I'm happy! Would be great if they decided not to even show the rest of the PT.

One thing also comes to mind, that they changed the age limits here this year. For some reason all the SW movies are now rated for 12-year-olds and older, I don't get that. You can still go to see them 3 years younger with your parents, but still. That's pretty much eliminating the whole crowd who would want to see TPM, LOL.

Edit: it seems that TPM was originally rated for 12 and older in 1999 so I guess they changed it back to that. They change these rating systems every ten years or so, hard to keep up with all of them. Before this year it was for 11 and older but anyways!

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LOL at everyone wasting money on this POS movie (all in light-hearted fun, of course).

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DuracellEnergizer said:

LOL at everyone wasting money on this POS movie (all in light-hearted fun, of course).

George continues to sell people the same garbage, and despite their reservations they gladly pay for it.

Sure, I recognize there are people who might actually find these prequels to be not as craptacular as I think they are, but even the haters might pony up because, "It's Star Wars."

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If the box office is any indication, they didn't this time. There are enough fans or pseudo-fans of TPM to justify $45 million in tickets over the course of a month.

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Tobar said:

 

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LexX said:

xhonzi said:

LexX said:

In Finland TPM 3D has pretty much flopped. In 1999 it was the most watched movie with 439 496 viewers. Now in two weeks it has been seen by 6 936 viewers. In its first week it finished at 7th place and on second week it isn't even in the top 10. For example the latest Mission: Impossible movie had 13 928 viewers last week (from the total of 106 601, it was released 3 weeks ago) to give you some perspective.

Edit: maybe a better example would be Lion King 3D which has now been seen by over 15 000 people here. I guess 3D releases of old movies aren't that popular here, but to be fair, both were just released on BD just last year.

Lion King and Beauty and the Beast were both released on 3DBD either just after or a couple months before the theatrical release as well.

Actually Lion King 3D will be released here in April on 3DBD and Beuaty and the Beast 3D wasn't shown theatrically here, but it was released on 3DBD in December.

Fair enough.  I was speaking of the US 3DBD and US 3D theatrical release of those movies.  Of course, that makes my comment not a direct reply to yours, but to a post like yours but had the totals from the US 3D theatrical release of those films.

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evan1975 said:

I think the kids that grew up with the PT will have an easier time dealing with it than those of us that were adults during The Great Disappointment of '99.

I was 7 when Jedi came out, so the Ewoks never really bothered me. 

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Well said.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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LexX said:

The films are subtitled. 3D prices are from 8 euros to 13 euros depending on the time, day and place.

That was Finland. I think that I should mention how it is in Sweden, one of Finland's closest neighbours.

The ticket price was 130 SEK. That is close to 15 Euros, or 20 USD.

All foreign movies in Sweden are subtitled, except childrens movies that get dubbed in Swedish ... TPM-3D is the first Star Wars movie ever to get dubbed in Swedish! This means that for the first time, the theatre company viewed the movie as a movie for children. The dub was made last year, with different actors than the animated Clone Wars. A subtitled version with the original language was also shown.

BTW, I find subtitles in 3D movies to be a bit strange. The subtitles are in front of the movie screen pretty close to you.

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Darth Lars said:


TPM-3D is the first Star Wars movie ever to get dubbed in Swedish!


The Swedes will, no doubt, count this as a blessing.

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Okay, I have got to hear how Jar Jar sounds in Swedish!

Where were you in '77?

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Darth Lars said:

All foreign movies in Sweden are subtitled, except childrens movies that get dubbed in Swedish ... TPM-3D is the first Star Wars movie ever to get dubbed in Swedish! This means that for the first time, the theatre company viewed the movie as a movie for children. The dub was made last year, with different actors than the animated Clone Wars. A subtitled version with the original language was also shown.

Wow! Finland and Sweden usually do things the same way so this is weird. Are they going to to dub the rest of the films, too? I wouldn't think so, so it would be strange to dub only the first one but who knows.

How's the movie doing in Sweden?

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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SilverWook said:

Okay, I have got to hear how Jar Jar sounds in Swedish!

Weesa in beeg bork!

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Two things, if I may.

 

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Leonardo said:

Post of the week.  ;-)

 

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georgec said:

George continues to sell people the same garbage, and despite their reservations they gladly pay for it.

That is behavior that I simply cannot grasp.  I'm truly fascinated by the number of people who make themselves like a sequel based solely on how they feel about the original in a series or previous work by a director they admire.  It's a behavior that I don't think even a psychologist could help me make sense of.  Yet I see it regularly on TFN and Blu-ray. 

I mentioned before that Back To The Future is one of my most beloved and watched films, coming it at well over 100 times and counting.  Yet - I think the second one is shit (I've seen several scenes from it), and I didn't bother with the third (or the second proper for that matter). 

My love of the first film is completely separate from the sequels.  Sequels, by the way, made by a director who has given me a lifetime of very cherished and favorite films. He doesn't get a pass just because I feel some sense of duty or allegiance.  Make a good film, I'll see it and support it.  Make a shit film, and I'll pass. No exceptions.

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Darth Lars said:

TPM-3D is the first Star Wars movie ever to get dubbed in Swedish!

Should have been sweded instead.

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Anchorhead said:

My love of the first film is completely separate from the sequels.  Sequels, by the way, made by a director who has given me a lifetime of very cherished and favorite films. He doesn't get a pass just because I feel some sense of duty or allegiance.  Make a good film, I'll see it and support it. 

 how do you know if something is good.

if you never watch them in their entirety(sequels)? paradox?

 

if i showed parts of star wars to someone, they could say

that looks terrible, and never watch the whole thing...

they would be missing out.

 

later

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There's tons of stuff in this world.  We're all missing out on lots of things.

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^ Would the Captain EO 3D re-release be 6D or 9D?  What does happen if you combine stereoscopic 3D with blue/red 3D... 

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You get an epileptic seizure.

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