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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
I heard the clip yesterday, and was appalled. You were right, it was originally a chilling scene, because of the mystery contained in the dialogue. Now it's obvious. I also felt that Clive Revill added to the mystery as the Emperor in ESB, because I really had no idea what Palpatine looked like until ROTJ, and when I saw Ian McDiarmid in the Throne Room, I was shocked and stunned.
Clive Revill's still alive, by the way. Is there anything legal he can do about being replaced, because out of all of the replacements (Shaw, Jeremy Bulloch's voice), Revill is the only one being completely excised.
Just to be clear, Jeremy Bullock was never the voice of Boba Fett. That honor originally went to Jason Wingreen, who also portrayed the bartender on All in the Family.
I do agree that the mystery has been completely removed from the Emperor scene.
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker<br
I didn't think that was Bulloch doing the voice of Fett, but I heard somewhere that it was, and I don't know why I believed it, because the voice was totally devoid of British accentation. But anyway, according to the IMDB, Wingreen's still alive as well; maybe we should form a Revill/Wingreen support group, since they've both been completely hacked out of the trilogy for all time.
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli
Almost forgot. Here's a change I can honestly say I could not care less about.
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Originally posted by: Galahad_SkywalkerQuote
Originally posted by: alexborn007
I was ok with the McDiarmid change until it became apparent that they changed the dialogue. Too apparent.
This is sad. I understand the continuity thing, but why destroy the creepiness of the scene?!?!?! The original, even in the SE was a chilling scene. Now, it just points out things the Emperor would obviously know since he's in cahootz with Vader. Good bye poignancy.
I was actually tempted to buy the set once I heard the scream had been taken out. That was a nice day...
"Vader: The son of Skywalker must not become a jedi..."
You're not buying it now, though, are you?
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Originally posted by: jimbo
The scream has been taken out. Really I never really disliked this change so I am also neutral towards it being taken out. Still it will appear to those who disliked it so I am happy its gone. I personally like the Emperor change. It does enhance the scene but it is a bit unfair to Clive Revill. I guess this is what this site is for right.
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
I found these links...here is a bunch of side by side pics comparing the New 2004 release to the SE's
nearly confinrmed DVD changes thread
and here's a link to the box set's complete artwork...pretty cool
artwork for boxset
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Originally posted by: Spyder XQuote
Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
I found these links...here is a bunch of side by side pics comparing the New 2004 release to the SE's
nearly confinrmed DVD changes thread
and here's a link to the box set's complete artwork...pretty cool
artwork for boxset
The quality of those cleaned up shots (not the changed ones, just the ones with cleaned up picture quality) is making me drool. That's some extremely good quality.
If only the originals were included! Why did Lucas have to leave them out? Why, why, why? I'm seriously fighting the temptation to buy these DVDs. I must resist! They look so tempting. Really my only problem with them are that they're the new versions. The cleaned up quality, all those bonus features, etc. all make me want to get these. I wanna see the movies in ultra high quality (if only they were the originals!) and I wanna hear the commentaries for all of them and get to see all those extra features. But I'm still fighting against it. Somebody help me resist temptation!
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Yeah but by that logic that fat Irish actor who was in the Jabba scene has been getting a raw deal since the beginning.
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Jeremy Bulloch did not provide the voice for Boba Fett in ESB. I can't remember the name of the actor that did, it wa sin an issue of the UK Official Star Wars magazine dedicated to all things bounty hunter, unfortunately I threw it away when moving
However, JB DOES appear on screen & unmasked in ESB...............he plays the Imperial Officer that is attempting to drag Leia into the elevator whilst she is screaming at Luke that it's a trap! Cunning eh?
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Originally posted by: Spyder X<br
The quality of those cleaned up shots (not the changed ones, just the ones with cleaned up picture quality) is making me drool. That's some extremely good quality.
If only the originals were included! Why did Lucas have to leave them out? Why, why, why? I'm seriously fighting the temptation to buy these DVDs. I must resist! They look so tempting. Really my only problem with them are that they're the new versions. The cleaned up quality, all those bonus features, etc. all make me want to get these. I wanna see the movies in ultra high quality (if only they were the originals!) and I wanna hear the commentaries for all of them and get to see all those extra features. But I'm still fighting against it. Somebody help me resist temptation!
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Originally posted by: jimboQuote
Originally posted by: Spyder X
The quality of those cleaned up shots (not the changed ones, just the ones with cleaned up picture quality) is making me drool. That's some extremely good quality.
If only the originals were included! Why did Lucas have to leave them out? Why, why, why? I'm seriously fighting the temptation to buy these DVDs. I must resist! They look so tempting. Really my only problem with them are that they're the new versions. The cleaned up quality, all those bonus features, etc. all make me want to get these. I wanna see the movies in ultra high quality (if only they were the originals!) and I wanna hear the commentaries for all of them and get to see all those extra features. But I'm still fighting against it. Somebody help me resist temptation!
You must give in and by these DVDs. It is your destiny
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Yeah but by that logic that fat Irish actor who was in the Jabba scene has been getting a raw deal since the beginning.
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
...and why is the dialogue sooooooo bleedin' obvious, talk about dumbing it down for the kids
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Originally posted by: jimbo
I personally like the Emperor dialog change. The only problem is its very mean to Clive Revell. Does anyone know why he didn't play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.
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Originally posted by: Spyder XQuote
Originally posted by: jimbo
I personally like the Emperor dialog change. The only problem is its very mean to Clive Revell. Does anyone know why he didn't play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.
Probably because they got Ian McDiarmid for the part. The Emperor only had a thirty second scene in Empire Strikes Back so it wouldn't have been worth all the trouble to look for someone who could actually play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. They probably didn't even know what the Emperor would look like at the time.
And even if they had gotten Clive to play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi it would've still looked different, because he only did the voice in TESB, the actual part was played by an old woman with chimpanzee eyes superimposed over her (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/?id=bts).
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Originally posted by: jimboQuote
Originally posted by: Spyder XQuote
Originally posted by: jimbo
I personally like the Emperor dialog change. The only problem is its very mean to Clive Revell. Does anyone know why he didn't play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.
Probably because they got Ian McDiarmid for the part. The Emperor only had a thirty second scene in Empire Strikes Back so it wouldn't have been worth all the trouble to look for someone who could actually play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. They probably didn't even know what the Emperor would look like at the time.
And even if they had gotten Clive to play the Emperor in Return of the Jedi it would've still looked different, because he only did the voice in TESB, the actual part was played by an old woman with chimpanzee eyes superimposed over her (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/?id=bts).
If thats true then I am very happy about this change. I thought Clive was the emperor there. I had no idea the Emperor was originally a women. This should have been done in 1997. Personally I love all the new changes except Hayden head and Bobas voice.