daneditor said:

Random thoughts while watching the rough cut:

I like the idea of the opening scene but as the main characters aren't included I think it needs to be a lot shorter, something more reminiscent of the first scene of Empire

I like Yoda handing Luke the green crystal for his lightsaber

I'd cut the exposition scene of the droids walking to the palace, cut from deleted scene to them getting to the big door

I fear you're biting off more than you can chew with this edit; some seriously ambitious stuff in the first few minutes that will take uber cgi and compositing skills

Jabba's 'What is it' should end with a ?

Less Salacious frikkin' Crumb would be better

I like the idea of Palps' new first scene

I'd make lots of cuts to the Jabba sequence to make it seem less kiddy, Han less lame and the whole thing a bit pacier

Interesting use of the sandstorm scene, works well

Surprised to see the Wicket/Leia scene - it's usually about the first thing editors cut

Just thinking out loud here: I wonder if there's some way to make Threepio's story to the Ewoks more cinematic, maybe with flashbacks or something

Not sure about the ROTS flashback - if one of the themes of the film is Vader wrestling with how he's been dehumanised etc, the theme should be established in act one

I don't think the Skywalkers' shuttle landing in the DS hangar bay is necessary - it reminds me of Lucas' bad changes to Empire

I like the shot of the Falcon's turret window looking out on star destroyers during the battle, although it's unclear who's in there using the gun

If you're gonna cut out ghost Anakin you should probably crop the shot so Yoda and Obi Wan are centre frame

I don't think the ending works, it doesn't really go anywhere; probably better to end on Endor

Interesting edit, gonna be a lot of work to get some of these concepts fleshed out. I'd personally choose to cut a lot more childish Jabba and Ewok stuff - but since it's well beyond two hours now I think that's possible and it'll still clock in around a couple of hours.

I also think the Fett storyline doesn't make much sense - he's in the opening scene working for the Empire, then goes to Jabba's palace, then gets his head chopped off. I still think it's best that he's not in the film, as he doesn't really do anything, and has no arc at all.

An idea off the top of my head: there are a couple of fan films with decent footage of Mandalorians attacking stormtroopers in a forest, so what if somehow the rebels paid the Mandalorians to fight for them as mercenaries (think: the ghosts fighting for Aragorn in ROTK) and during the battle Fett died as a kind of anti-hero, then he would have an arc that could work. But I imagine that would be better in a non-Ewok cut.

Anyway, good luck!

Thanks for the feedback on these points... To be honest with you... I have tried to avoid relentless cutting that some editors do and just shrug there shoulders and say I'm getting rid of it alltogether and there is not much of the original left so whilst trying to make subtle cuts and keep the feeling of the original I've also tried to expand upon and make some things a bit more paletteable like leia and wicket for example at present you cannot have ROTJ without Ewoks so If you can't beat em join em...

I quite like the Jabbas palace scenes, where as alot of people dislike alot of elements to it, I actually really like Jabba as a character and salacious his little parasite sidekick but I take your points onboard and part of the main reasons I have done cut's and additions is plot considerations not wether I personally like somthing or not as that is perhaps discounting alot of the original source material and just writing it off if you just don't like it.

I did not want to be too ruthless with cutting stuff alot of others may enjoy...

The opening I did was really very difficult to try to pull off and I understand your opinion just trying to join the dots in the plot.. I hope somone could come up with somthing along these lines that is better yes it is ambitious but you may aswell go in big and see what happens.

ROTJ is not ROTJ without Boba Fett in it IMO that ruins any edit immediatley of ROTJ as I said before thats a big shrug to cut him just because he has a lame death scene so I'd tried to make his death a bit better but I understand why he gets cut I just cannot understand why people don't try harder to keep him in.

Boba fett never had a story arc ever he is just a henchman

I think I should cut both the flashbacks but it was meant to be a duelism between luke and Vader in this version. Experimenting really

ROTJ is still a good movie just not as good as the other 2 in the trilogy and the moral dilemma I have had in trying to come up with somthing that works has been enormously challenging whilst not wanting to make ruthless cuts where I feel I may or may not like somthing or somthing works or does not work and trying to craft somthing a bit different whilst still trying to keep it close to it's roots without losing alot of what people hold dear to there childhood memories.... And this is as far as I got

Don't know what to do about the end but if it's not working it aint working I will continue the search for the missing ingredient but it will go If I cannot find anything that helps it conclude on the notes that I want it to.