Collaborative Fanediting: An ROTJ Proposition (BACK ON TRACK WITH EMANSWFAN AT THE HELM--SEE POST 1488 OR OP FOR A LINK!) — Page 51

I rather like the 'more red' version as it ties the shuttle colour to the Imperial Guard armour.

Here was my more space Nazi version :

I actually really like that one too, and it seems a better fit.  Good job.

ben_danger said:

hey ronster. just finished watching your clips.

you have done really well considering the materials provided are really awful quality, and although there are alot of choices that have been made which i don't think work perfectly, you have really pulled something together that refreshes ROTJ!

where did you get the footage for the tatooine fly through? i am assuming some sort of nature documentary? it works awesomely!

Hi there... Thanks yes lots of footage from all over the place A combination of films and pics

1. Final approach - psycholical thriller first digital sound mix was what it was famous for. this a deleted title now

2.Imax Grand canyon - Hidden secrets documentry

3, Some stills various and bits and pieces from the trench run ANH composited

4.Audio files are from The Bobba fett holiday special cartoon

5. Phantom menace POD race far shots  and deleted scenes

It's only a storyboard rough mock-up I hope the it would not look like this if it were done as a final... I needed to get alot of ideas out quick rather thean spend ages on a particular sequence + I only began learning the CS5 suite on the trial whilst doing this stuff so the rough framework is there for the ideas they are far from perfect I agree it needs in alot of cases new footage or use 3DS max models but they are only ideas still

I'm a bit gutted that I did not do the shot of him flying towards tatooine as Is missing but hey time restraints my trial ran out and you get the idea

was watching your clips again last night and you have some good stuff there I plan to use your sequence to assemble into my final storyboard cut for the C3PO sequence story telling the ewoks so thought I had better ask your permission on this?

Bingowings said:

I rather like the 'more red' version as it ties the shuttle colour to the Imperial Guard armour.

Here was my more space Nazi version :

Looks like starsky and hutch... Lol

I'm sorry but I'm not agreeing to this... Can't you make it look evil?

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You can laugh at mine now.. I mean change the shape of the wings

The current Air Force One is a Boeing 747.

Exteriorly the only visible difference between it and any other 747 is the presidential livery.

Vader had a unique shaped tie-fighter In ANH I think the emperor should have a unique shaped shuttle that suits him otherwise keep it normal IMO but thats just my thinking

or perhaps add the emblem as bingo wings suggested

I feel naked after doing that sketch in microsoft paint

timdiggerm said:

Although that's true, remember that there's nothing particularly evil looking about Vader's TIE versus other TIEs. Heck, the features that made it so unique ended up getting mostly incorporated into the Bomber in the very next film. Vader's TIE looked more powerful than the other TIEs (although it didn't actually demonstrate that), which fits with Vader's character. He is powerful.

What is the distinctive essence of Palpatine? How can that be reflected in a ship while still keeping the aesthetics of the Empire? As much as I understand why bat-wings (well, that is what that looks like) make sense, they don't fit with everything else the Empire builds.

And there's nothing wrong with naked.

I'm sorry do you think it makes kind of sense or it's a bad call because I thought of it the other day whislt I don't want it to look like the batmobile of star wars like

more spiky

Ronster, while ben_danger uploaded those videos, he didn't create them...they were actually the work of a guy called SSWR I guess, who apparently had lots of great ideas, and then vanished, as did his videos over time.  I think they are "public domain" so to speak.

As for the shuttle, I honestly don't care if it changes or stays the same, but I do find some of the alternate ideas interesting.  I agree, bat wings may not be the way to go, but making it distinct and more powerful looking could go a long way--perhaps just arming it with some big guns or something.

darth_ender said:

Ronster, while ben_danger uploaded those videos, he didn't create them...they were actually the work of a guy called SSWR I guess, who apparently had lots of great ideas, and then vanished, as did his videos over time.  I think they are "public domain" so to speak.

As for the shuttle, I honestly don't care if it changes or stays the same, but I do find some of the alternate ideas interesting.  I agree, bat wings may not be the way to go, but making it distinct and more powerful looking could go a long way--perhaps just arming it with some big guns or something.

I'd like it to be dark like the eclipse...

Sorry for my bad sketch it was not meant to look bat wing like spiked and concave definatly not bat wings

Rough:

J

Gotta be honest, that looks pretty cool.

Jaitea said:

Rough:

J

yep that's certainly more along the right lines for palps... I think that looks wicked

I imagine david hasslehoff is under one of the imperial guards uniforms

So I have some good news I should have my complete storyboard rough cut done by tomorrow I did not touch some of the scenes I thought I would make cuts to but I did change some of jabbas dialogue could not resist it tbh anyway,,,

I am running at 2hrs 6.42 at present and growing at a guess I think it will be 2hrs15mins and thats without some of the proposed space battle stuff included All the cuts I planned I have now made so I only have to add from here. so I am hoping that it will balance at about the original running time of 134mins

nearly done and it's a relief I'll try to write a changelist but there is so much it's mind boggling at present

Hey Ron, I'm getting kind of anxious to move on with the vote.  After this vote is settled, I'm backing off for a while, and I really need to back off as soon as possible.  I hope you're okay if I put the vote up some time this week.  I know you've been working on your rough edit.  How much more time do you need?

darth_ender said:

Hey Ron, I'm getting kind of anxious to move on with the vote.  After this vote is settled, I'm backing off for a while, and I really need to back off as soon as possible.  I hope you're okay if I put the vote up some time this week.  I know you've been working on your rough edit.  How much more time do you need?

Today.... Hopefully the next few hours I want to come away too from doing so much work but I also want to finish what I started over 2 months ago it's been an interesting journey that is for sure and the end is in sight...

Sounds good.  I'm excited for you and all your efforts to near fruition!  I'll try to get that vote up in the next couple of days then, after we've had time to review a few more of your ideas.  I do have to update what I'd already done based on our discussions.

ok I'm done and exporting it now yipeee I'm free The end is a bit shabby I ran out of steam but it is done finally

2hrs 20mins 36secs I reckon this could be trimmed back anyway

That's great, Ronster.  I'm really looking forward to seeing it.  Ronster, what timezone are you in?  I've been wondering when on earth you actually get any sleep.

darth_ender said:

That's great, Ronster.  I'm really looking forward to seeing it.  Ronster, what timezone are you in?  I've been wondering when on earth you actually get any sleep.

GMT it's 7.15pm here and I've been going since 8.00am and I did from 6pm until 11:30pm last night I have alot of work on rest of this week and next so I had to get it done and now finally I can say I did it... Most involved project I think I have ever undertaken as a hobby project.

I don't know If I can even face watching it... I've had far too big a dose of Return of the jedi

Yeah, I think every editor must say that.  Wow, Ron, you've really put a lot of work into this.  I'm sure it will be helpful.  I'll give people a few days to review it before putting up the vote.  Let me know if there are specific aspects you want me to put up, since I can't imagine voting on every little detail.

darth_ender said:

Yeah, I think every editor must say that.  Wow, Ron, you've really put a lot of work into this.  I'm sure it will be helpful.  I'll give people a few days to review it before putting up the vote.  Let me know if there are specific aspects you want me to put up, since I can't imagine voting on every little detail.

I can't think about the changes there are just too many to list It would take me a whole day to list them I think...like an essay... there are so many things moved cut and added This cut is for reference I did my best and I flaked out at the celebrations a bit... but the ideas and cuts are all there so It's worth a go but certainly needs more tightening at the very end and in places but I have to call it somewhere and this is it... I won't be doing another rough take or amending anything it's now over and complete for me on this rough storyboard take.

I cannot spend anymore time with this now but will partake in voting and stuff for sure.

I ripped out ROTJ's guts and handed it back in a bag :) I don't even know if the main idea works as well as I would like it to now but there is a better way to do the celebrations at the end for sure. It is very heavy editing cut but somehow not alot is lost.

I followed the script Very close in alot of things but deviated where I felt I wanted to go in a different direction

Damn none of the subtitles came out

I was going to say it's no big deal, but then I realized just how much your cut probably relies on subtitles to get a great deal of the new dialogue across.  Sorry dude, that sucks.  Hopefully you can get it fixed.