Mielr said:
On a side note, I know of someone who has all 3 SW films on 35mm (he collects 35mm films).
If he has a copy of non-SE Jedi, ask him if he'd sell/loan his print to someone else to make the transfer. If he would, I bet we can find one hell of an interested party right here.
TheBoost said:
Mielr said:
I think George is self-isolating. He's fairly ordinary-looking and I think he could put on a hat and walk around Frisco and few people would notice him much less recognize him. I used to live and work in NYC and I saw famous people all the time (much more recognizable than GL), doing ordinary things, and I never saw anyone speak to them, much less mob them. Maybe Frisco is different than NY (New Yorkers pride themselves on acting unimpressed by anything or anyone-LOL), but he's definitely not The Beatles circa 1964.
He's not even Lindsay Lohan, for that matter. :-PIf I saw George Lucas in anything other than his trademark flannel, I'd have a hard time recognizing him.
Shoot, trim the beard and lose the pompadour, and I don't even think Speilberg would recognize him.
Where's George? Can you find him? ;)
Where were you in '77?
I don't know why anyone listens to anything Lucas says at this point. He's just pulling random explanations out of a sack of explanations.
Believe it or not, this is, in fact, churning up more interest in the UOT. I just looked at the thread discussion on AVClub.com about this and there are people discussing Harmy's Despecialized Edition.
Idiotic comments like this are only making him look more and more stupid.
You think Lucas would release the OOT on BluRay just to get this fanbase off his back so he could focus on the younger generation with the Clone Wars stuff he is doing.
Its like the scene in 'A Bronx Tale' where the kid owes 'C' money and C wants to confront and him and chase him for his dough. And Sonny says that the 20 dollars was the best money he ever lent out because that kid will never bother him again.
If Lucas put out the OOT on BluRay, the majority of the fanbase would probably walk away from SW along with their new OOT version and the only ones left would be the true whiners who can't let the PT go.
not necessarily. sure, the objective would be completed, but we can then talk about how cool OOT is and not lament the once proud saga formerly known as star wars.
I think GL's plan all along was to destroy the OOT, even before empire and jedi were made. People like GL, who have more money and power than the common people, can control the course of history regardless of what others say. It has been like that since the dawn of civilization; why does GL need public opinion? He will succeed without a doubt in destroying everything related the OOT because that was always his vision, to make people love a movie so much that it becomes more than just a movie, but an inextricable part of the cultural idiom, and then remorselessly destroy it. It leaves the fans with a shock and disbelief that will never go away, a hole that can never be filled. The only record we will have of the OOT ever existing is fan bootlegs that will always be behind the times in quality.
I have only one question now: Why are there evil people in the world like George Lucas?
Am I the only one who remembers George giving this "bad editing" excuse a long time ago? I think it was in an interview in the Star Wars Insider around the time of the Special Editions being theatrically released.
The reason why I remember this, is because in the Marvel Comic adaptation, Greedo does get a shot off in the panel where he gets blasted. Does anyone know if it was it ever written like this in the early scripts?
eiyosus said:
Marvel Comic adaptation, Greedo does get a shot off in the panel where he gets blasted.
No he doesn't actually. The comic is even more un-special editiony. He doesn't even get to finish his sentence when Han kills him.
Baronlando said:
eiyosus said:
Marvel Comic adaptation, Greedo does get a shot off in the panel where he gets blasted.
No he doesn't actually. The comic is even more un-special editiony. He doesn't even get to finish his sentence when Han kills him.
I was about to say, that's not how it goes down in my copy:
What's amazing to me is that a guy so wealthy and powerful could so easily do a restoration of the original films that would not only be a drop in the bucket cost for him, but would probably earn a good amount of money from fans... yet he just doesn't do out of some misplaced sense of pride or dogma.
Its incredible because truthfully even after all the prequels, the second clone wars series, the extreme depths of merchandising, I would still look at Lucas at worst neutrally, and in some ways as a smart businessman if nothing else.
At this point to be honest I wouldn't care if GL released a pornographic musical comedy movie in the Star Wars universe based around the adventures of Jaxxon the Rabbit and Waywa Fybot; I just want to be able to see the original films in good quality without having to rely on fan rips.
Lucas hates Jaxxon, but not that much! ;)
Where were you in '77?
Okay, I must be nuts. :P
Funny, but the myth that all 3D is uses the inferior red and blue glasses continues.
Where were you in '77?
Thinking about it more, Lucas had to have been right. Obviously Greedo was meant to shoot first, its why the novelization, the shooting script, and the comic adaptation feature Han shooting first, to make it such a delightful surprise for everyone when Greedo shoots first in the actual film. Sure, it certainly seems like Han did, but filmgoers are so often wrong.
Its these kind of audience mistakes that led to Orson Welles complaining years later about people assuming Rosebud in Citizen Kane was the sled and not the nickname of Kane's mustache as he intended and why Ralph Bakshi had to endlessly explain that his animated Lord of the Rings ended in the middle of the story to symbolically represent the danger of trusting midgets with important tasks.
Its just a shame Lucas forgot to correct this mistake/misinterpretation in the initial edit, or in the re-released versions shown in the theaters in the 80s, or its initial release on home video, or later release on home video. But thank goodness we had the Special Edition to correct this gross misinterpretation.
His point about Han Solo looking like a cold-blooded murdered is valid. Same thing happens with Indiana Jones. Somebody should throw a machete (or poop) at him before he cuts the bridge in Temple of Doom, just to make it clear he didn't have a choice. Additionally, it should be explained somewhere that the alligators hadn't eaten for weeks, and didn't mean to chomp Mola Ram like that.
generalfrevious said:
I think GL's plan all along was to destroy the OOT, even before empire and jedi were made. People like GL, who have more money and power than the common people, can control the course of history regardless of what others say. It has been like that since the dawn of civilization; why does GL need public opinion? He will succeed without a doubt in destroying everything related the OOT because that was always his vision, to make people love a movie so much that it becomes more than just a movie, but an inextricable part of the cultural idiom, and then remorselessly destroy it.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously. You have to be kidding yourself. I'd say you're a blatant troll but you've been at this for so long I think you're just crazy. While it's true the victors write history, that DOES NOT apply here. At all.
A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em
twister111 said:
It's pretty clear he's wanted to be the public figure head for Star Wars since the SEs were produced. He had plenty of time to think about it and he wanted that fame induced lifestyle. I hazard a guess that his life was becoming ever more "average" during that time. I mean when Star Wars was discussed prior to the SEs I as a kid did not care and did not know about George Lucas. I just discussed the characters on the screen with my friends. Sure this is anecdotal, but I ask you prior to the SEs in the early 90s how much did you associate George Lucas with Star Wars?
As a kid, the only name I knew about the making of Star Wars is that George Lucas made them all. I didn't know the names Kirshner, Marquand, Kasdan, Kurtz, etc. I think I did know John Williams did the music. IIRC, Bantha Tracks (and other media) frequently invoked his name and called him a "visionary genius". I think BT even sold posters of George Lucas looking whimsically into the stars, probably done by Struzan.
George has taken the role of Sole Creator of Star Wars™ since the beginning, and gladly accepted all the accolades during the golden years. It's only natural then that he received the lion's share of the blame when things went bad.
Wow, it has already been said here to death, but Lucas is truly clueless about why so many fans take issue with him nowadays. Ever since I was 7 I never had any trouble figuring out who shot first, and I didn't think Han was a cold-blooded killer because of it. It was either him or Greedo. That's all there is to it and that's all there ever was until he messed with it in the SE.
And yeah, he's right - there are 4 different versions of Blade Runner - and we get all of them on Blu-ray to choose which we like best. There's also 2 different versions of each Alien film on Blu-Ray. And 2 versions of E.T. on DVD. So nice that he makes it easy for us by only letting us have one choice.
Does he really believe the crap that he spouts or is he just hoping that we will? Lucas has virtually killed Star Wars for me. I don't believe a single word he says anymore and I haven't for some time now. How can I possibly respect him when he says things like this? Adywan is the sole reason I still care at all about Star Wars. Him and other members who have done their best to honor Star Wars as best they can. Lucas has done nothing but hurt Star Wars ever since the SE.
God, I would just love to read an interview where the actual interviewer calls him out and sites historic references of him contradicting himself. Or actually say stuff like "Yeah, but Blade Runner has all versions available." There must be some contractual obligation that really limits what the interviewer can ask.
I'd love to read his responses. Maybe someday.....
So Lucas is trying to convince us that a CGI Yoda who just sits around and has one walking shot was impossible to do in the same movie that has a CGI Jar Jar?
All I really want is each film as it was originally seen and heard in theaters; no fixes, corrections, "improvements" or modifications necessary.
eiyosus said:
God, I would just love to read an interview where the actual interviewer calls him out and sites historic references of him contradicting himself. Or actually say stuff like "Yeah, but Blade Runner has all versions available." There must be some contractual obligation that really limits what the interviewer can ask.
I'd love to read his responses. Maybe someday.....
That's why I don't think he will ever appear before Congress again.
Where were you in '77?
CO said:
This interview furthers my opinion that we will NEVER see the OOT fully restored on any format. I'm sorry, but the guy has comtempt for this part of the fanbase, and seeing his daughters tweets about the OOT fans too, she won't be releasing the OOT either when she inherits Lucasfilm.
Agreed. The battle is over. We've lost. This year all of the 3-D stuff and these interviews just salt the wounds.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
Mike O said:
CO said:
This interview furthers my opinion that we will NEVER see the OOT fully restored on any format. I'm sorry, but the guy has comtempt for this part of the fanbase, and seeing his daughters tweets about the OOT fans too, she won't be releasing the OOT either when she inherits Lucasfilm.
Agreed. The battle is over. We've lost. This year all of the 3-D stuff and these interviews just salt the wounds.
Amen to that too. The problem is that GL is still the spoiled teenager who just wants to drive cars all day, and not maintaining his legacy. The George Lucas we see today was the exact same Lucas from the 70s. He was just as incompetent then as he is now; the only difference is that his incompetence is more transparent than it was back then. The only real reason the first star wars film is an enduring classic is because the editors saved it from being a disaster. And how did GL thank them? By purging them from the official story and taking more undeserving credit. Now the loss of the OOT is all but secured. Han shooting first? Well, GL has thrown that fact down the memory hole. And no one can stop him, as billions of dollars will always nullify the opinions of millions.