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Sorry to make a new topic but this has me scared!!!! if SOPA and PIPA are past we will not even be able to discus Star Wars with out George Lucas ‘s Approval.
SOPA and PIPA Sorry to make a new topic but this has me scared!!!!
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Mmmmm...nothing like a good Mexican sopapipa.
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red5-626 said:
Sorry to make a new topic but this has me scared!!!!
if SOPA and PIPA are passed we will not even be able to discus Star Wars with out George Lucas ‘s Approval.
Fixed.
(I don't usually correct misspellings, but that one changed the whole meaning of the sentence!)
It doesn't look like this will happen as the bill has too many opponents now.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57360665-503544/sopa-pipa-what-you-need-to-know/
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The Black Knight says:
Pipi and Popo will not pass!
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This struck me as the most ironic part of that CBS article...
In a statement, former Sen. Chris Dodd, who is now chairman and CEO of the MPAA, called the blackout day a "gimmick."
"It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests," Dodd said.
Yeah, because politicians never intentionally skew any information in their favor. ,':-/
...telephone rings...
"Hello Kettle? This is Pot. You're black."
My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.
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Although this proposal has been deferred in it's current form, I've previously read about a sneaky device that the 'powers-that-be' in the U.S. use to push their agendas through sometimes - it's known as a 'PAPERCLIP CLAUSE', and it means that certain legislation that's been difficult to pass on it's own, could eventually have it's substance 'subtly included' into another internet-related bill proposal. A proposal that just happens to be one that politicians across the board will find reasonable to vote for/difficult to vote against.
The upshot is that the public is not as aware of the implications this time around, and the politicians end up also voting through this previously discredited aspect by default. And some initally opposed politicians could unwittingly vote for the 'main' proposal without realising the full ramifications of the complete wording on the bill.
And you can bet that law enforcement will be encouraged to crack down harder on the 'subtly included' agenda, rather than the 'main' aspect of the bill that was supposedly the target in the first place, once the powers are available.
So if the 'powers-that-be' again don't get their way on their eventual 'amended' SOPA/PIPA proposals (which will be back sooner rather than later) in future, then I've no doubt they'll try to use this method to get things 'through the back door' instead.
Having said that, with the way that 'Megaupload' was dealt with, it seems there's plenty of fire-power that existing U.S. laws already have anyway...
But wouldn't this subject be more suited to the 'off-topic' section, regardless?
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^ came up in the Politics thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Politics/post/559723/#TopicPost559723
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Ziz said:
This struck me as the most ironic part of that CBS article...
In a statement, former Sen. Chris Dodd, who is now chairman and CEO of the MPAA, called the blackout day a "gimmick."
"It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests," Dodd said.
Yeah, because politicians never intentionally skew any information in their favor. ,':-/
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"Hello Kettle? This is Pot. You're black."
That's racist!!
Also, Re: paperclipping. Yes, that does happen quite a bit. It's one of the many tactics our politicians have devised to circumvent the will of the people when they decide that they know what's best for us and we don't. I could definitely see this happening with the substance of SOPA and PIPA sometime in the future...
Every 27th customer will get a ball-peen hammer, free!
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Keeping the internet 'freer' (and existence in general) is a constant battle. Here are two methods to defeat the rise of Extended Copyrights and Great Firewalls. You can keep track of each debate and get involved. With SOPA and PIPA semi-gone, the next one to keep track of is OPEN. (Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade)
http://blogs.computerworld.com/19605/sopa_pipa_dead_as_open_bill_rises_from_ashes
The other is to fight against the cause of extended copyrights and clamping down on freedoms, money. Support candidates who take less money from non-persons, for example. People have described this as a Long-term problem. But there are people working on it. For example Lawrence Lessig who has spent time as a lawyer working towards clarify copyright laws and promoting remixing and expanding what normal people can and should be able to do the culture which surrounds them.
He's left the world of copyright lawyering to focus his attentions on the corruption of Congress. Below is a recent lecture by him:
"How Money Corrupts Congress and a Plan to Stop It"
http://longnow.org/seminars/02012/jan/17/how-money-corrupts-congress-and-plan-stop-it/#
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The Black Knight says :
none may pass.
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I find my generation's entitlement complexes pretty disgusting, to be honest. I'm not in favor of SOPA and PIPA because I do think that they're massively excessive and give way too much power to the larger interests, but I understand where they're coming from. I don't dispute that there're tons of corporate corruption or gouging from the megabucks powers-that-be, but I don't think that gives people the right to just download whatever they want and never pay for movies, music, comics, etc either. I understand why these companies are scared and I think that they have a valid point, though I don't think these bills are the way to handle it. But the sheer sense of "I'll just download it" that goes around the Internet is disturbing. I realize there are exceptions (things that aren't going to come out in your country with subtitles, stuff that's long out-of-print, etc.) that needs to be accommodated, but I think a lot of this just sounds like the everything should be free attitude that quite frankly, I find kind of disgusting. There's some stuff here that definafely needs to be dealt with, though obviously I'm glad these didn't pass because I don't think they're the right ways of dealing with the issues.
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death
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I find it strange that industries that are obsessed with making obscene amounts of money have forgotten about basic economics 101.
Part of the reason piracy and illegal downloads exist in the first place is because of the general public feeling they're being price gouged trying to buy the content legally and wanting a cheaper alternative.
So, if MPAA/RIAA would learn that they can still make a profit at 800% markup instead of 1600% - basically make their prices cheaper - then more people will be inclined to buy the legal product rather than seek out pirated copies. If more people buy the legal version because it's more affordable, they make the same money in the end AND combat piracy by making the pirates efforts worthless.
My outlook on life - we’re all on the Hindenburg anyway…no point fighting over the window seat.