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Geek.com said:

The score that Williams created is without question one of the most recognizable pieces of music out there. Even 40 years later, children can identify when Darth Vader is about to come into a scene just by hearing it.

Assuming they're referring to the "Imperial March" (which seems likely), someone needs to revoke their Geek credentials. That theme didn't appear until Empire...

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I saw this, and their numbers are completely off.

Star Wars was not a low budget film. It was not even a modestly budgeted one. It was a big-budget blockbuster and one of the most expensive films made in its day. A typical film, like Annie Hall or Taxi Driver, cost about $4 million. Special effects films like Logans Run and Planet of the Apes sequels cost closer to $6 or $7 million (which is what SW was initially budgeted at). At $11 million, Star Wars was one of most expensive films of its time--not on the level of Jaws, but up there. All the crew talks about how there was no money--this is because the scope of the film was so disproportionate to the budget that everything had to be stretched to its limits. Lucas made a $20 million film for $11 million. Part of the reason the budget didn't go that far is because Lucas developed all the VFX in-house, which cost a lot upfront but saved a lot overall--Peter Jackson did this with LOTR too.

If Star Wars was made today it would similar to the budget of the prequels--$250 million blockbusters made for half of that cost. But still bloody expensive.

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that is a good point - you cant just account for inflation.  lol, it says score/music $100000. I think John Willams' fee is a little higher than that now :P

but it does seem like in the last 10 years, movie budgets have been skyrocketing and im not sure why.  most big budget studio movies are shot overseas to cut costs and use cheaper labor, right?  so why so expensive?

methinks there is a movie bubble - like oil bubbles, stock market bubbles and real estate bubble.

one of my favorite action movies in recent years is Hanna (soairse ronan is going to win 5 academy awards when all said and done).  The budget was $30 million.  there is hardly any cgi except maybe matte paintings and what not.  Green Lantern cost $200 million!!  and they knew it was going to be bad so they spent another $100 million in marketing/promotion.  was it really because of animated cgi, which requires a more specialized skill ?

wondering if the fact that with the proliferation of theatres in NA and overseas markets, home video rentals and sales - its much harder for a movie to truly bomb and this has caused an inverse effect that studio producers can raise costs as much as they want.

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It's not just special effects but the sheer scope of the productions. You simply didn't have special effects extravaganzas in the 1990s until around 1997 or 1998 when CGI started taking off. You had films like Starship Troopers and X-Men and Phantom Menace--you simply didn't have films like that before. There is no comparison you can make, until you go back to the similar boom in the late-70/early-80s but even those were on much smaller scales. You never had action scenes with as much explosions and physical stunts as in Michael Bay's Transformers, and you rarely had films with as much prominent and as many visual effects as that film has. So, it's pretty hard to make a comparison to film cost of the past--films simply weren't that big, with rare exceptions like Apocalypse Now, but even that film only has one humongous action scene.

If you compare movies of the 2000s with those from the 90s with similar scope you see that the budget is not wildly different. Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo cost about 90 million. In 1998, Ronin cost about 75 million in todays dollars. They both in my opinion have similar scope, Ronin has more action scenes but Dragon Tattoo has more locations and a bit more ambitious story, but they are useful comparisons. Movies do cost more money these days, partly because of an increase in actor/director/producer perks and partly because film equipment is more expensive than it has been in the past (excepting the cost of celluloid itself, which is now being phased out, but then replaced with more expensive cameras in most cases), and partly because star/director/producer salaries have gone up overall.

But if you look at the only other time in history vaguely comparable to today--roughly 1978-1983--you see that those special effects blockbusters have similar cost to today. Star Trek:TMP cost $35 million in a day where a typical Hollywood A-list drama like All the President's Men cost only $7 million. So if today a typical A-list drama like Social Network costs $40 million, if you apply the same ratio (1:5) that gives you $200 million for the blockbusters of our time, which is pretty accurate. Nowadays, there are more special effects than in the 70s and early 80s, so the cost is more, plus today blockbusters are usually brand franchises with licensing fees and long development periods, so they often surpass the $200 million mark. There are even more extreme examples in the past--Cleopatra, in 1963, was a huge, huge film, like Troy or Alexander, the type of films they might make today, and that cost $45 million in a day where a typical film cost about $1 million or $2 million and an action film like The Great Escape cost $4 million. If we peg a typical film costing $2 million in 1963 and $40 million today, making Cleopatra in 2012 would be like making a blockbuster with a $900 million budget. And the film made profit too! It's remembered as a bomb but it seems to have grossed 20 million more than its budget (quite a big difference back then) by the time the decade closed.

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hmm...true. i guess I think of the Ben-Hurs, David lean movies, Irwin Allen and dino delaurentis - but those were the exceptions.

ronin was great! loved that movie.

lol, when you talk about actors perks it reminds me of a rumor I heard that jack nicholson nowadays doesn't want to make movies that interfere with Lakers home games BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

i never saw cleopatra but Ive also heard that it was perceived as a bomb but did make money.  OTOH, heaven's gate truly was a bomb. 

its funny you mention that a cleopatra-like movie would be $900 million today.  Avatar cost $400 million in producing and promotion, I wonder if we'll see the first $1 Billion dollar movie soon?

another thing I am intrigued about is what role agents play.  In sports, we know scott boras can singlehandely influence an entire team.  15 years ago, the NBA was a players league and agents like david falk had considerable power.  you don't hear to much about movie agents.

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