3D STAR WARS for the masses...has ARRIVED! — Page 21

Bingowings said:

As I recall Lucas took interest in the retrofitting process quite early on but he just dragged his feet.

If he had jumped in a re-released the films in 3D right after Avatar it probably would have drummed up a bit more interest in the Blu-Ray sets.

After the Blu-Ray sets I can't see how adding the gimmick to a set of films people can watch at home in HD (even it's mangled form) will be worth the effort but I often under estimate the gullibility of Joe and Joanna Public.

We can hope, but I doubt it. Star Wars is now something unto itself. The name sells, and people will pay for it immaterial of what it is. 

really torn on prometheus.  based on the trailer, it looks like it'll be a good movie.  but i liked that the space jockey was a mystery.  hopefully, it'll still be a mystery after the movie.

TinTin was ok in 3d.  Im still waiting for the 3d thats immersive AND fills up the space between the screen and the viewer. 

not much has been made of the 48fps.  peter jackson said that 48fps helps 3d.  if 3d does not catch on, will filmmakers move on to 48fps or both will pass? 

I think the 48fps is a bigger change.  just right when HDTVs were able to solve the whole 24fps/120hz/5:4 pulldown :P 

3d has come in phases before.  was there ever a feature film released in 48fps?

48 fps should present no problem for the current TVs and most BD players, the only problem I can see this presenting for current HD equipment is that double framerate means twice more data, so you need to double the bitrate to keep it the same quality.

What I'm concerned about (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that for playback on devices (including cinema projectors) not capable of playing back 48fps, it would have to be converted to normal 24fps by either dropping half the frames or interpolating every two frames into one, first of which would probably result in choppy movement and the second would create the ghosting inherent having two different frames overlayed.

SilverWook said:

The day a major movie release has no 35mm prints struck at all will truly be the end of an era.

That really saddens me. I've been using Film for a few projects at Uni and it has a real 'life' to it that Digital lacks.

SilverWook said:

The day a major movie release has no 35mm prints struck at all will truly be the end of an era.

the decline has been ongoing for quite some time now..

last year was a major drop for films..

fox has been talking about dropping 35mm for

awhile now:

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http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjournal/content_display/news-and-features/features/technology/e3i9d8bb28649c6da4d1d61f39d3e90700a

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/movies/2011/12/thinking-about-the-end-of-film/

http://reservoirwatchdogs.com/2011/08/09/the-end-of-35mm-prints-and-tarantinos-career/

an interesting observation:

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Once enough territories in a region switch off 35mm as a format, the studios especially will be looking to end 35mm on a regional basis. For example, the big five countries in Western Europe account for 81 percent of total prints in the market, and once each of those countries has converted over 80 percent of their screens to digital, the pressure will be on to end 35mm as a format across the entire region. In the U.S., there will be no 35mm in mainstream use from the end of 2013. For Western Europe, this may extend out to the end of 2014, given the large number of countries and the possibility of public support. The rest of the world will then be under some pressure to follow suit. I see the last of 35mm in mainstream usage by the end of 2015—that is, around four years from now.

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asterisk8 said:

Mike O said:

Lucas sees the 3-D craze winding down and wants to take advantage of it.

The 3D craze is not winding down. Just wait until The Hobbit comes out in IMAX 3D at 48 fps and people feel like they're looking through a giant window into Middle Earth. From where I'm sitting, true 3D movies are just getting started.

I was under the impression that The Hobbit wasn't going to be 3-D. Avatar is the only evidence of 3-D doing anything interesting so far as I've seen, and I'm beyond sick of it. I'm with Mark Kermode on this one, 3-D can die a quick death. If someone wants to come along and show me an artistically interesting film in 3-D, I'm still waiting for it. In any case, it's academic. People will pay for the gimmick, Lion King proved it, and Star Wars will certainly cement it.

TV's Frink said:

Mike O said:

I'm not paying for it; hats for sure

Why would you pay for a hat instead?

I was tying on a smartphone on a 15 break, cut me some slack :P.

Mike O said:

I was under the impression that The Hobbit wasn't going to be 3-D.

Mike O said:

TV's Frink said:

Mike O said:

I'm not paying for it; hats for sure

Why would you pay for a hat instead?

I was tying on a smartphone on a 15 break, cut me some slack :P.

What were you tying the smartphone to? ;)

EDIT: You tied it to yourself, didn't you?  It took me that long to figure it out.

SilverWook said:

Doesn't bode so well for revival screenings if the studios aren't going to replace worn out rental prints, or convert their libraries to screen in the new format.

All the theaters near me were built before digital, but are totally converted now, or soon will be. Whether they've kept the 35mm projectors in place or ripped them out, I have no idea.

Actually knowing how to operate a film projector is on it's way to becoming a lost art.

Yeah, it's a damn shame. Projectionists are sadly a dying breed. Kermode's been vocal about it, and he's too right. I'm no fan of 3-D, but obviously digital is the future. 

Mike O said:

SilverWook said:

Doesn't bode so well for revival screenings if the studios aren't going to replace worn out rental prints, or convert their libraries to screen in the new format.

All the theaters near me were built before digital, but are totally converted now, or soon will be. Whether they've kept the 35mm projectors in place or ripped them out, I have no idea.

Actually knowing how to operate a film projector is on it's way to becoming a lost art.

Yeah, it's a damn shame. Projectionists are sadly a dying breed. Kermode's been vocal about it, and he's too right. I'm no fan of 3-D, but obviously digital is the future. 

Indeed.

There are quite a few couple directors who choose to shoot on 35mm film, instead of digitally (Spielberg, Quentin Tarantino, J.J. Abrams, Christopher Nolan), so there is a little hope.

Totally agree with Kermode as well. IMAX is the way of the future, not 3-D.

Mike O said:

Actually knowing how to operate a film projector is on it's way to becoming a lost art.

One of my tutor's used to be a projectionist before becoming a tutor. He's been teaching us how to operate film projectors as part of our studies. As well as film editing and whatnot...

Yes, hopefully 3-D will die soon :p. For me personally, I've very seldom seen anything older than the 1990s on the big screen and if this continues, I'll never have the opportunity to see Ran or Lawrence of Arabia on the big screen, a longtime dream of mine. I'm not dismissing digital. I've shit student films and such on it, it's quick and easy, and there are filmmakers (Michael Mann, etc.) who've done interesting things with it, but I'd hate to see film itself die. Progress can be a bit of a sad thing sometimes. 

Emphasis mine

Mike O said:

I'm not dismissing digital. I've shit student films and such on it, it's quick and easy 

twister111 said:

Emphasis mine

Mike O said:

I'm not dismissing digital. I've shit student films and such on it, it's quick and easy 

Sorry it's just, what a typo to make!

(Now making sure my post is star wars related)

 

His fault for having a smartphone tied to himself.

Mike O said:

...and if this continues, I'll never have the opportunity to see Ran or Lawrence of Arabia on the big screen, a longtime dream of mine...

Why not? Lawrence has been digitally restored to at least 4K by Richard Harris, so a digital projection looking like a newly struck interpositive should be totally possible and the same goes for most important catalogue films, except for STAR WARS of course.