Johannus said:
darth_ender said:
As for the space battle, I wish I could continue to be a big contributor here. I would honestly be willing to do a hand illustrated storyboard to show my ideas. Perhaps someone else might be willing to do so. I still am rooting for the Victory Star Destroyers, and I think they still fit with Imperial uniformity. I just love their design and I really don't like the Venator. I'm not a GL basher like many here, but it annoys me that Lucas included the Venator and not the Victory in the PT.
I found this interesting website on how to construct a Victory SD. Obviously it's not quite a movie quality model, but if the creator had the ambition to add more texture and it were used mostly in distance shots, it could be very passable. For closeup shots, perhaps it could be enhanced a tad with CGI, given lights and a bit of texture and the like.
If we do include some sort of DSII plans stealing scene, it would need to involved new footage as Angel said. I also think it would be best not to have Vader. The Bothans are supposed to succeed after all, but only after many deaths. If we include any such scene, we need to show this very thing: success at their mission with high casualties, and enough ambiguity to allow it to be part of the Emperor's master plan.
The model on this site is obviously much smaller than a studio scale model so you really couldn't have a lot of close ups without then improving the shots with cgi (though pretty basic stuff that could possibly be done mostly in photoshop).
That said if you use it for fairly distant shots and choose your angles carefully you could probably get pretty good results. If you are considering using physical models of a smaller scale then it would be a lot easier and cheaper as there are loads already available. Also I have a lot which I have been trying to build up over the last year or so with a possible fan film style scene in mind so I would be happy to help out with those. The only downside is I have a really good camera, but no video camera so stills would be fine but motion could be an issue. If nothing else though they might be useful for a photo style storyboard?
Could not the exact same format be used to make a larger model? Obviously not a studio model six feet in length or anything, but still of a respectable size to create a decent illusion from a distance? And like you said, we could enhance it with CGI.
I can't seem to find a decent commercial Victory-class Star Destroyer anywhere. They are a distinct design from those in the films, and I like them for their differences.
Are you really a skilled model builder? That's awesome! I personally think models would fill an important niche in our edit. I'm sure there would be times when stills would suffice, though motion ability would be nice too. Perhaps you will ultimately obtain a video camera (purchased or borrowed from a friend), or perhaps you could carefully package and mail a couple of your models to someone else. I think this would be a fantastic way for you to contribute. I was prepared to do this myself, but I doubt I'd do a very good job and as I've said repeatedly, busy life starts this Monday. If you'd be willing to build these models, I would love you forever...in the most professional way imaginable of course :)
Victory Star Destroyer:
Imperial/Imperator-class Star Destroyer (the one we see in the movies:
Size comparison:
If you do build it, I suggest you look online for more pictures to get a decent idea of the full design, but this at least gives you a superficial comparison of the differences. Let us know if you're willing to give it a shot :)