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DominicCobb
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Collaborative Fanediting: An ROTJ Proposition (BACK ON TRACK WITH EMANSWFAN AT THE HELM--SEE POST 1488 OR OP FOR A LINK!)
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6-Jan-2012, 3:32 PM

darth_ender said:

I'm sorry Ron, but to answer your earlier question, I do think it would hurt to reuse footage.  I remember watching the very visually exciting Star Trek: Generations, with its high budget visuals and the like.  Then the Enterprise manages to blow up the Klingon Bird of Prey and my first thought was, "Hey!  That's the exact same effect they used when they won in Star Trek 6!  Not cool!"  It really is too obvious and cheap.  I think if you can disguise it well you can pull it off (for instance, showing the Falcons guns shooting from ANH, but altering the outside scenery).

MrInsaneA, Here's why I feel it disrupts the flow: Ben and Luke are having a heart to heart expository conversation.  It's slow but important.  The final line builds tension a tad.  Transition to ships flying.  ZOOM!  Over in 2 seconds, then we're back to a slow introduction to a new plot setup, either including Vader contact with Luke or simply beginning on Tatooine.  They're both not quick moving, but again are rather expository in nature.  Without some way of effectively transition between the two, it feels rushed and unsatisfactory.  I really don't like it that much.

That said, I think it can be made more successful if the transition is slowed down a tad.  Follow me a moment while I ramble.  After Ben's line, "You must face Darth Vader again," intense music builds as we see Luke's x-wing departing from Dagobah.  We transition back to the Death Star from outside.  We then see Vader brooding while staring out a viewport, as he so often does when he's bored.  He turns and leaves the bridge.  He walks down the hall and gets on a turboshaft, listening to a lounge mix of Sting's "Fields of Gold."  Next shot he's in his meditation chamber and is reaching out for Luke.  Instead of immediately showing Luke, we hear Vader continuing on, but we see the planet Tatooine slowly getting larger.  Next we see an outside shot of the Tatooine cave, like this:

Vader's voice maybe continues to resonate as if reaching through space and finally we continue with Luke's lightsaber construction, etc.  Maybe such would be a sufficient spacing for the transition, but I do feel something needs to stretch these slower, plot-building scenes out a bit.

(Obviously you wouldn't use the humorous stuff, but I'm serious about the rest of this outline.)

Sounds good to me.