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TheoOdo
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Collaborative Fanediting: An ROTJ Proposition (BACK ON TRACK WITH EMANSWFAN AT THE HELM--SEE POST 1488 OR OP FOR A LINK!)
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2-Jan-2012, 3:03 PM

Ronster said:

Yeah so how does Endor Play in this, is this a moon of Corusant? The problem with that is that Endor is nowhere near it but you then throw the prequels out the window, which does not bother me too much but people will be like "what?"

Yes, Endor is a moon of Coruscant. In the original draft of Return of the Jedi, I seem to remember Endor having been a moon of the Imperial planet. This is where the name "sanctuary moon" comes from. Somehow it survived into the final drafts.

"Sanctuary" because it is a natural environment not built up with technology, as the surface of the Imperial world had been. Don't quote me on that, though, I'm going from memory and it's been a while since I checked out the draft.

Yes, the prequels would be considered very much secondary to this edit, although there are indeed moons around Coruscant in the prequels, if anybody cares.

Is there a death star in this version and where is it?

No. One of the reasons to make the Palace the focus of the assault is to avoid rehashing the Death Star, something which Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back producer Gary Kurtz (I think rightly) condemned as unimaginative in his interview with IGN.

If they blow up the Palce who destroys the Death Star as this threat is not there /removed?

Nobody, as it doesn't exist. I had a discussion about this before, but I think I might as well repeat myself here.

The reason the original Death Star was created was as a propaganda symbol as much as a weapon of destruction. It was meant to demonstrate the power of the Empire, but its destruction would have been an equally massive propaganda failure.

It would be like building a second Hindenburg. It wouldn't say "obey" it would remind people of the Empire's humiliating and improbable defeat, so even in-universe, the second Death Star is a problem.

That's not to say the Empire wouldn't do it, but it's as if their propaganda department was all blown up with the original Death Star. It lacks imagination in-universe and out.

What threat is there of impending doom or Political reasons that causes people to uprise against the emporer if there is no Death Star and how do you attempt to conjure this threat with what footage is available?

The arrival of the Rebel fleet, the destruction of the Imperial Palace and the likely death of the emperor would serve as a catalyst for an all out uprising by the population.

As with real world dictatorships, symbolic acts can often compel an oppressed population to rebel, often against massive odds. With the Rebel fleet's arrival and recent victory, sympathizers on the surface would have every reason to begin rebelling.

Remember, the Empire didn't have an operational Death Star for much of its existence. The people would have to have been kept under foot by other means.

Endor has a shield generator protectiing a Palace on another Planet or a Deathstar?

Usually, the Imperial Capital would be defended by a massive fleet. With the outbreak of Rebellion, the fleet is now "spread thin throughout the galaxy in a vain attempt to engage" the Rebels.

Because of this, a security shield has been built around the planet in the absence of the fleet, effectively quarantining it and its population.

This is a show of weakness that the Rebels seek to exploit, but, of course, it turns out to be a trap. The fleet has left the Imperial Capital in an attempt to coax the Rebels into attacking. As they approach the Imperial home-world, they'll find that they're being jammed by operators on the surface, then the Imperial fleet exits hyperspace and begins its assault.

What destroys the Rebel Capital Ships?

The Imperial fleet's assault.

Although a surprising blast from the Death Star was necessary in the original, the threat in this edit is the massive Imperial fleet.

What does the executor crash into?

I had different ideas for this. One was to have it crash into a smaller moon.

Another was to have the Executor crash into another Super Star Destroyer, which entails the destruction of two flag ships and so sends the fleet into a state of disarray. With the shield now down and the Rebels launching their attack on the Palace, this would be a major blow to the Imperial offensive.

They've lost several commanders and are now continuing the assault in the knowledge that the Emperor - everything they've been fighting for - is now under threat.

Luke goes to Endor and then to corusant and then back to Endor?

Yes, just as he goes to Endor, then to the Death Star, then back to Endor. Endor is now a moon of the Imperial Capital, as in the original draft, so this is not a very long journey.

You also forgot re-dubbing the emporers lines / and having to remove much of his parts in it.

The Emperor does not mention the Death Star all that much, actually. When he does, he refers to it only as a "battle station".

He does reference the "shield generator", which we now take to be a generator defending the entire Imperial planet.

For example, this scene works even with the removal of the Death Star, with the throne room now set inside the Palace:

EMPEROR
Ah, yes, a Jedi's weapon. Much like your
father's. By now you must know your father
can never be turned from the dark side. So
will it be with you.

LUKE
You're wrong. Soon I'll be dead...and you
with me.

The Emperor laughs.

EMPEROR
Perhaps you refer to the imminent attack of
your Rebel fleet.

Luke looks up sharply.

EMPEROR
Yes...I assure you we are quite safe from
your friends here.

Vader looks at Luke.

LUKE
Your overconfidence is your weakness.

EMPEROR
Your faith in your friends is yours.

VADER
It is pointless to resist, my son.

The Emperor turns to face Luke.

EMPEROR (angry)
Everything that has transpired has done so
according to my design.
Your friends up there on the Sanctuary
Moon...

Luke reacts. The Emperor notes it.

EMPEROR (cont)
...are walking into a trap. As is your Rebel
fleet! It was I who allowed the Alliance to
know the location of the shield generator. It
is quite safe from your pitiful little band.
An entire legion of my best troops awaits
them.

Luke's look darts from the Emperor to Vader and, finally, to the
sword in the Emperor's hand.

EMPEROR
Oh...I'm afraid the deflector shield will be
quite operational when your friends arrive.