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Shimraa
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I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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21-Jul-2004, 6:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
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how many kids do you think truely understand what Lotr is about.

hrm... im not lying when i say this but a monkey could understand LOTR... whats so complicated about the LOTR story?
its the simplicity of the story that captivates people...

they dont use works like Chancellor, Senate, Republic, Emergency Powers... what kinda kids are gonna know what these mean???
unless they watch CNN constantly...
lol


yeah sorry your right bad example. but here is one the terminator story


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OKay, where is all this information coming from? because it's certainly not coming from the movie. The opening crawl merely tells us that the taxation of trade routes is in dispute. That's it. If naboo was the primary supporter of the taxation, we need to find out about that, but even so, that does not neccessarily explain the blockade, and certainly not the invasion. Why blockade a small, out of the way planet like Naboo, when they could go after a much higher profile planet, say Alderaan. If they're trying to make a political point, blockading a small, peaceful planet is not the best way to go about it. Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain why the Trade Federation would invade the Naboo. What would there be for them to gain from it? Nothing. What could they lose? Everything. It seems to me that while the blockade possibly has political justifications (although they are never discussed in the film, which is a *big* problem) there is absolutely no reason for the Federation to escalate things by invading Naboo.


because naboo is palpatines planet and it creates a sympathy vote for him.

another point i am sure that if a chief of state is imprisioned then the senetor could speak on her behalf, in a special circumstances. therefore he could get himself elected, on the otehr hand he could have banked on amidala escaping, cus he new the visory was an idiot.


i apologize in advance to an and all jewish people for my flowing post, it is not my intention to be rasict i am mearly drawing from history.
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Actually, I based that belief on several things. First, the fact that the Jedi had been wiped from the public conciousness. Something like that takes a long time, it's not something that could reasonably be done in a 20 year span. Too many people in the universe to remember how it was before. Too many long lived species like Hutts and Wookies to remember how it was. Second, Obi-Wan was pretty old, seemingly in his late 70's. He talked about being a jedi Knight during the clone wars, which were before the Empire. He also talked about meeting Luke's father, who was a star pilot. This suggested that they were roughly the same age, or he was just a little older. I got the distinct impression that The clone wars happened whiel Kenobi was in his 20's. Based on that, I had the empire's age estimated at roughly 40 or 50 years old, depending. Then of course, there's the Imperial Navy. So many commanders clearly in their late 40's and 50's. One does not get to be an admiral overnight. It seemed to me that a lot of these commanders would have had reasonably long careers in the imperial navy. Not to mention, calling it an Empire when it's 20 years old, sounds awfully presumptuous. It's not a word that generally gets attatched to things that have only been around for a short time. To me the word Empire suggests longevity as well as size.



ok in WW2 if hitlier had succeded( which he came very vyer vyer close to doing) and he purged jews around the world, in a matter of years. in the late sixties how many ppl would really remeber the jew. that is a generation of people later with a fasist government(the empire). there is alot that can be done in 20 years when you have a facist government.

also to the point where the general called the jedis magians. well it this mind seet what around in TMP was well " what you think you are some sort of jedi trying to do mind tricks."

And another thingn reference to the advancement of generals, many of the major genrals are of he empire are already serving in the navy in the PT. i know this reference is from a book but the fact is you can only put so much in a movie. In rogue planet, genral tarkins character is explained a lil and we learn that he is already a genral at the time, it is possible that he defects to the imperial army right away, therefore his career in the navy is mroe the 20 years, and his career in the imperial navy is 20 years, that is a long tiem to serving in the navy thous he is granted a high position.

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The difference here is that the Empire is not confined to a single continents worth of raw materials.

yea but they are not defending and yeping one continat together, the Galaxy is a big place, and this is alot offronts that need to be covered, and as for the rebellion, they are beeing funded and bulding there own stuff the dotn have access to the big technology that the empire has. i should also ad that the NJO takes place 25 years after the OT and the technology is relitively the same. mayeb the SW galaxy has reacched a point of techonologycal advancement where it is very hard to get better.

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Absolutely, it is because the effects were primitive in 77. The problem is that no effort was made in the PT to match the displays to the OT. Hence the impression of more advanced technology.

its not the PTs fault that is looks better then the OT, but oent hat front i say give it time when lucas redoes the OT in the 2007 versions, he will probably make all the ships look just and cool looking as the ones in the PT, that is without changing the designs of them.

ok now there are many other thing points that i wanted to counter but i am like others just too tired at this time to finish this post, so ill leave it as it is and close with this.

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I really wish he'd gone the route he did for the original trilogy, that is, writing the story, but leaving the script to professional, talented screenwriters. George is a good story man, but not a good writer. Why he continues to write them himself is a mystery to me. Oh well.


i do to cus a good screen play script would have made it ez for most people to draw the conclusions that i have drawn about most of the plot holes that you have commented on. your are right it is a bad script in terms of connecting things i agree with you there but it is not a bad story.