Alexrd said:

Warbler said:

here I have to disagree with you, Alexrd. Lets say you buy a lottery ticket for the 10 million dollar jackpot. You had pick 6 numbers that could each be 0 to 99. You had to get all the numbers right and in the right order. You know your ticket has the potential to be the winning ticket. But if it turns out that you ticket is the winner, I'll bet you would be surprised as hell.

Well, but I wouldn't be surprised about my chance to win, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the ticket. I get what you're saying, though.

My point is that even with contraceptive methods, people should be aware that they are fallible and they should accept the outcome in case of failure, before having sex.

This is why I question your sexual activity. People who have sex frequently using birth control can go years and years without having a kid. So when you find out your pregnant after a decade of having sex, YES, it comes as a surprise.

I think everyone here agrees that abortion is not appropriate form of birth control. I assure there is no significant number of the population that is thinking, "nah I don't need to take birth control, I'll just get an abortion." Abortion is much more expensive than the bill or condoms.

And, YES, the birth rate has dropped in Western/Northern Europe and in America. It's not an opinion it's a fact. Ever hear of demography? People study these sorts of things.