STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 996

Hell's bells adywan, I sure wasn't expecting a whole background replacement!  And to think that I'd have been delighted just to see that little bit of 'tubing' added....  Simply stunning work once again, and thanks for giving us the extra preview.

The correct 'tubing' looks great of course, and it's good to see the back of that damned inconsistent 'yellowish' light now too.  And no more transparent 'cone' anymore either.  Your new background has given this viewpoint a really epic shot in the arm now.  Interesting too, how you altered the positioning of it for your revised version.

Ziz said:

IF text commentary only if it was edited to stay in real time with the film.  The way IF writes, we'd be in the middle of Dagobah and he'd still be talking about the probe droid shots.

That might well have been a probability...except 005 was referring to the same kind of 'multi-screenshot' Visual Comparison that was done for ANH:R on his blog, not an 'onscreen' commentary during the movie itself, lol.

Monroville bringing up the railing 'gaps' reminded me about this final question I wanted to bring up about this sequence adywan - After the sparks have cleared, would this shot look a little more effective if orange 'scorch glows' were also briefly visible on the edges of the railing 'gap' that Vader swung down on here, or not?...

...and I see from your Facebook comments that we're gonna be getting a new 'screenshot' for the next few days until Christmas too!  :)

AuggieBenDoggie said:

I usually forget to visit Ady's facebook page.

 For all those who either forget to go, or for those who don't bother much with the Failbooks......Heres a recent comment from Ady:

"Thank you to everyone who has donated towards this project so far. We're getting closer to the completion of this episode, but still need your help. We are pretty close to hitting the target for materials with about £1500 left to raise (give or take a few hundred depending on prices of materials at the time of purchase). I'm still hoping for a May 2012 release date and it is looking possible, but ...we still need to find these funds. Don't forget that anyone that donates £5 or more towards this project gets a chance to win one of the models created for this film. Anyone that donates after the final funds have been raised will immediately have their money refunded and on that day the draw will take place and the winners announced. I really wouldn't be able to complete this edit without you guys and for that i am eternally grateful - Adywan."

And anyone who might like to add a donation to what we've already collected for Ady this Holiday season...just go to the official Revisited website: http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/ 

(The donation link is on the right side of the page)

Happy Holidays Everyone!!!

Angel said:

I believe in the last pic that ady posted there is a small room for improvement in terms of better light conditions.

In terms of exposure the window should have brighter sky(as if the correct exposure behaviour can be seen in the original pic with the blown out central window section.

The"bloom" setting isnt unknown when the light wraps arround darker objects(see the boy). Plus its a common fact in the blury lenses of ESB.

The effect that ady did is very good but in my opinion looks like an HDR(not the extreme effects that we mostly see, but the shadows and the highlights have the same amount of detail in terms of exposure)

Even in night-evening times the camera cant balance the interior and the exterior exposure.

Most of the times interior shoots have the sky blown up-white and the details faded.

The masks i can assume is already there so if any adjustment to the lightning is possible. Adding subtle bloom is an option for better lens effects.

(extra note: Notice how the light burns the pixels of a darker object creating a magenta-blue sometimes red chromatic aberration. I would love to see these film effects on the new "clean" shots that adywan created)

-Angel

I see what you're saying Angel, but my opinion is if Ady can make this shot more like how the human eye would react rather than a camera, the better it is.

doubleofive said:

Who's to say Cloud City isn't equipped with tinted glass that reduces the glare?

This guy does run the city. You think he wouldn't have tinted glass?

Angel said:

Sure why not. But if this just to justify the look of the shot, it just doenst fit.

While its an expressive art, finding ways of showing realistic as possible the shots-the ending result and not finding excuses for hiding errors and fake looks.

If the glass is tinted then it has to have some short of tint. Visually you have to show things when you cant or dont need to explain them.

-Angel

Star Wars: REALISM PERSONIFIED!

Sorry, Angel. Couldn't resist. ;)

Angel said:

That doesnt prove anything but thanks for the joke ;) (lame poster) It doesnt have to do with realism but with lens behaviour. in defence that most of us like the "original look".

We all know that ady is well awared of cinematography and how a lens works.

Unless he wants to create his own sureal revisited look that fits to his tastes then im ok.

 

-Angel

Easy man. Just messing with ya. Wasn't trying to prove anything. And it is a lame poster. Why do you think I picked it? =)

Well, tinted glass in a white tone would be rather... weird?

If by that you mean what's commonly known as milk glass, then almost no light makes it through the glass, so both Adywan's and Angel's screenshots would be wrong

If you meant frosted glass, then even in that case Angel's right. Cause it's a problem focused on how much light passes through the glass, and not how does it pass (diffuse transmition). Check out an example:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/FrostedGlassWindow.JPG/800px-FrostedGlassWindow.JPG

As you see, frosted glass transmit visible radiation in a different manner than transparent light, but the ammount of light is nearly the same.

Finally, assuming there was some white tinted glass in a galaxy far far away, then, as any other tinted glass, it technically absorbs energy (therefore, less light should be casted through the light, even less than in Ady's screenshot). Infact, that's one of the functions of tinted glass, to perform better thermically by absorbing some wavelenght radiations.

Greetings! 

This last stretch of comments has made me LOL so hard, it's ridiculous.

MrInsaneA said:

This last stretch of comments has made me LOL so hard, it's ridiculous.

I concur.

I have to agree with Angel, regarding which is visually/subconsciously correct. Ultimately it comes down to Ady's intent with the edit, but considering that a general complaint of the SE is that the digital effects look fake, this seem a valid observation. 

The BD shot while visually uninteresting, it is photo-realistic, where the Revisited image strikes the subconscious as not right for film. As was noted earlier, regardless of how the human eye sees things, as life-long cinemaphiles, our brains all know what things should look like on film, and when they don't our brains register as being unreal. The cumulative effect of that is it takes us out of the action on the scene.

L8wrtr said:

I have to agree with Angel, regarding which is visually/subconsciously correct. Ultimately it comes down to Ady's intent with the edit, but considering that a general complaint of the SE is that the digital effects look fake, this seem a valid observation. 

The BD shot while visually uninteresting, it is photo-realistic, where the Revisited image strikes the subconscious as not right for film. As was noted earlier, regardless of how the human eye sees things, as life-long cinemaphiles, our brains all know what things should look like on film, and when they don't our brains register as being unreal. The cumulative effect of that is it takes us out of the action on the scene.

I do agree, when you look at the 3 images, the BD image and Angel's look natural...the back light is effecting the figures in front of the window, I'm all for a more realistic shot

J

muddyknees2000 said:

AuggieBenDoggie said:

I usually forget to visit Ady's facebook page.

 For all those who either forget to go, or for those who don't bother much with the Failbooks......Heres a recent comment from Ady:

"Thank you to everyone who has donated towards this project so far. We're getting closer to the completion of this episode, but still need your help. We are pretty close to hitting the target for materials with about £1500 left to raise (give or take a few hundred depending on prices of materials at the time of purchase). I'm still hoping for a May 2012 release date and it is looking possible, but ...we still need to find these funds. Don't forget that anyone that donates £5 or more towards this project gets a chance to win one of the models created for this film. Anyone that donates after the final funds have been raised will immediately have their money refunded and on that day the draw will take place and the winners announced. I really wouldn't be able to complete this edit without you guys and for that i am eternally grateful - Adywan."

And anyone who might like to add a donation to what we've already collected for Ady this Holiday season...just go to the official Revisited website: http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/ 

(The donation link is on the right side of the page)

Happy Holidays Everyone!!!

 Just donated!!! I'm sure everyone has in here but I'm gonna try to spread the word elsewhere.