Alexrd said:

walkingdork said:

When my first child was conceived my wife was on the pill. When my second child was conceived she was on the pill AND I was wearing condoms. Judging by her reaction I would say there is NO chance of her missing them accidentally or intentionally. Weren't we responsible?

Did you know that there was still a chance of getting pregnant? If yes, and if you had sex anyway, what was the surprise?

Yes we knew there was a chance of getting pregnant, but the pill is like 90% effective so yes I was surprise.

Again you guys are comparing a beautiful act of making love to dangerous and immoral things like firing guns into a crowd or drunk driving.

fixed. Sorry, my bad.

Alexrd, is it that you are you married or have you just never been laid? I guess I don't know how old you are or what your marital status is. The idea that no one should be having sex unless they are planning on having kids is ludicrous. Nowadays, there are many forms of birth control that are up to 99% effective. The birth rate in Europe and America is far less than it was generations ago. Do you really think that is because people aren't having as much sex.

I'm not saying that if you get pregnant and don't feel like having a kid you should have an abortion. I'm not pro-get-an-abortion-if-it's-inconvenient. However there are several circumstances where I think abortion should an option. I don't think teenagers who stupid and make mistakes should have their life ruined because they let the high school quarterback talk them into sex. I don't think crackhead who will have their children taken from them and thrown into the foster care system (which is fucking mess).

Also the argument that fathers should just be better fathers is dumb. Of course dads in the world should be stepping up, but there is no way to enforce that.