Does anyone still have this?
Currently looking for the following preservations: V8 A Final Attempt by Arnie.D, Pre-ANH Bootleg Telecine, Starkiller '77 bootleg, LD OT by Cowclops, LD OT by Dr. Gonzo, LD OT by Farsight, LD OT by ISOMIX, LD OT by Dark/Sega Take 1, TPM Theatrical by Adywan, OT - Deliberate Creative, OCPMovie's Classic Editions, Pan & Scan O-OT Project, LD OT by EditDroid, Lucasfilm Pwnage Editions, Negative1 CED Preservations, Starkiller CED Preservation, Rowman bonus discs, BLAK0004, BLAK0009, BLAK0010, BLAK0016, BLAK0017, BLAK0029, BLAK0040, BLAK0046, BLAK0047-0050. Also a good preservation of the 97 SEs.
i just had all my pan scan versions on laserdisc tranferred
for the whole trilogy.
you will have to de-interlace them though.
i have mpegs, but the are huge.
will downsample to xvid avi's.
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i'll be working on star wars first this time.
preview pictures coming soon (and video).
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Which laserdiscs you got?
Catalog numbers?
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r
Darth Mallwalker said:
Which laserdiscs you got?
Catalog numbers?
i don't have them with me currently.
so i'm not sure.
however looking at lddb,
for these pan and scan ones:
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star wars
usa, ntsc
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the empire strikes back
usa, ntsc
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return of the jedi
usa, ntsc
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i will make sure about the exact
versions, once i get my disks back.
i only have the files with me.
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If yours are "Extended Play" like the photos, I suppose that means time-compressed for the first two movies.
Would be interesting to find out if they have exactly the same frame count as the time-compressed CED had...
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r
Darth Mallwalker said:
If yours are "Extended Play" like the photos, I suppose that means time-compressed for the first two movies.
Would be interesting to find out if they have exactly the same frame count as the time-compressed CED had...
i can't do an accurate frame count.
there are too many skips with the CED versions.
research says they came from the same masters.
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i have the following laserdiscs
converted to mpgs:
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star wars
CLV PS 1130-80
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http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11010/1130-80/Star-Wars:-A-New-Hope-(CBS)-(1977)
the empire strikes back
CLV PS 1425-80
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http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11012/1425-80/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-(1980)
the empire strikes back
CAV PS 1425-84
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http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00896/1425-84/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-(1980)
return of the jedi
CLV PS 1478-80
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http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10637/1478-80/Star-Wars:-Return-of-the-Jedi-(1983)
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negative1, would you consider uploading a clip of the star wars transfer from this set, if there is not multiple demands for the whole upload ?
frank678 said:
negative1, would you consider uploading a clip of the star wars transfer from this set, if there is not multiple demands for the whole upload ?
yeah, give me some time, and i'll upload star wars,
and let you know when it's done. i think i'm missing
part of the 2nd side. i'll have to check on that.
i'll do a request for pm's later on..
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star wars OT LD preservations
star wars fullscreen v1.0:
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by -1
source : USA, NTSC, CLV PS 1130-80
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title : star wars 1977
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format : xvid
original image : 720x544
final image : 720x544
frame rate : 23.976 fps
audio : mp3
channels : stereo
bitrate1 : 114kbps
variable : yes
frequency : 48000 hz
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files 2: both are Full-screen pan and
scan, with time compression on the video
and audio, all scenes are there, including
credits. also the laserdisc intro, side changes
and warnings
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starwars_ldFS01.avi - 699MB - 59m:53s
starwars_ldFS02.avi - 720MB - 59m:51s
fixed
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no major glitches..
a short one on side 2 when the falcon
leaves the deathstar, this is due to
recapturing the second part of side 2.
used 2 different laserdisc players including
pioneer.
some hum in the sound, but
overall, a very clean capture.
enjoy and share!
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ok, i'll be uploading it shortly, and
if you want the links, pm me...
one thing i like about the fullscreen
version is the colors are so bright.
it feels like all the shots are during
daylight, (artoo and jawas) etc..
also, interestingly enough, when the
death star timer starts counting down,
the time is cropped, so that it shows the
right number of minutes.. 30 minutes left
shows :30 properly....
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Very nice. Thanks.
ok, the files are uploaded,
and the links are ready.
pm me if interested.
i have sent out pm's to the
people requesting it..
please leave comments..
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hey people,
i'm uploading the files to another server,
so hopefully you won't have issues with
the ones i use. i'll let you know again
when they are ready.
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negative1 said:
hey people,
i'm uploading the files to another server,
so hopefully you won't have issues with
the ones i use. i'll let you know again
when they are ready.
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I got hit by a file size limit on these for some reason, but I was able to find a pass which let me get them. Files all good - all set for study ...
ok, the files are now uploaded
to multiple servers. please try
those if you had an issue before.
i have resent pm's to those that
requested it.
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I thought i'd write up my initial take on comparing Negative1's two recent Star Wars Pan&Scan Laserdiscs preservations which he kindly posted up the CED (FOX+CBS) and the Extended Play CLV PS 1130-80. I compared these with two done by Dark Jedi - Standard Play CAV and 5651-80, which Darth Mallwalker had posted.
All this has probably been catalogued and discussed with much better understanding but I thought I would post my quick take and hope people with the knowledge at their fingertips can correct me 100x quicker than me going through lots of threads.
The 5651-80 P&S laserdisc is from the same film print as used for the Japanese Special Collection[?]. My sense through looking at the Senator Theatre stills and cross-referencing it with outtake scenes from Empire of Dreams is that this master/print retains the most clear record/cluster of the colour structure of the original, that it hasn't been shifted away to the same degree as the other prints/masters. I don't have any understanding of colour theory or in which order/pattern colours fade or how color correction is done - this is just based on my sense of it.
The CED, and Standard and Extended Plays Laserdiscs seem to all be from the same print. This print seems to have the early stages of a green/yellow shift like the one which is much worse in
this picture of the man riding a horse:
https://www.familysearch.org/techtips/2011/12/editing-software-techniques-for-old-photographs
My sense is that if this green/yellow haze thats over this version could be reversed it would look better, and more comparable to the 5651-80/JSC. What makes me think one move might do this is that the Binary Sunset in the CED+S+EPLAYS matchs the binary sunset in the faded 8mm derann still on the savestarwars goutcorrect page, suggesting there was a similar fade happening in two distinct prints (?)
The Laserdiscs from 1993 + Gout all seem to be a different film print again but have been put through a blue filter, so that everything is darker. My sense is if the blue filter could be undone then it would be easier to compare next to the earlier laserdiscs?
It seems like the early laserdiscs then have no colour correction done but whats happened is purely the result of organic change? Maybe if someone could understand the order and pattern in which the film colours bleed they could reverse engineer back to an approximation of the Senator Print. This seems to be what zombie84, Harmy, You_Too, Lee Thorogood, are all doing by different methods but I wonder if one single colour correction could work on the earliest laserdiscs also.
Please jump in and set me straight on anything or everything i'm getting wrong. I haven't really done my homework or studied the differences in great detail , i'm hoping for any helpful pointers.
thanks frank678 for the comments..
i'm not up on color theory much.. go figure..
i'll post the rest of the laserdisc fullscreen
versions if you guys want those also..
i have CLV and CAV transfers for the empire
strikes back.. i figure they are identical.. but if
there are glitches, i can combine them to make
a good version.. i can't remember if 'return of the
jedi' is time compressed or not.. it might not be.
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here is a preview of sides 1-5 of
the empire strikes back Fullscreen CAV
laserdisc (i haven't checked, but the CLV
should be the same, but most likely time
compressed)..
sides 1-2
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sides 3-4
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side 5
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i'm converting the other two sides, and will resize them to
the standard 720x480 and post more screenshots..
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ok, finished checking out the CAV
uncompressed LD, they were fine.
no glitches or problems.
now finalizing the CLV versions.
these ARE time compressed.
so far these match the CED
fullscreen versions. but with
better quality.
will post some comparisons shortly.
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here is a preview of sides 1-2 of
the empire strikes back Fullscreen CLV
time compressed laserdiscs..
side 1
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side 2
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here is a preview of sides 1-3 of
return of the jedi Fullscreen CLV
uncompressed laserdiscs..
side 1
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side 2
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d
side 3
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please let me know if there is interest,
and i will post these..
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