greedo said:
is it just me or does something look not quite right with darths retracting saber.
everything else is spot on
Now there have been a couple of comments complaining that its retracting too slow. Now to get the retraction correct i used the scene where Vader and Luke are on Endor where vader inspects Lukes new saber. It takes 8 frames to retract from full blade to gone. The one in my video is also 8 frames. Now in the OT the blades take between 6 and 8 frames to retract (apart from ANH where they just disappear), but in the PT they only take between 4 and 6 frames. So there is no correct speed for them to retract. as long as it is between 4 and 8 frames then it will be screen correct
Captain Antilles said:
Random question, I know, but anyway...
Ady, will you be replacing Clive Revill's name with Ian McDiarmid's in the end credits?
The credits will be created from scratch so it will be Ian's name replacing Clive's.
Ronster said:
I have posted on the you tube channel for revisited but thought I would post my idea here to also see what others think of seeing vaders shuttle approach towards the end of the Hoth Battle.with reference to Vader getting to Hoth to Enter the Base he Obviously arrives via Lamda Shuttle probably with Tie Escorts. A Vader shuttle reveal might work in the scene immediatley after the AT-AT destroyed by luke falls over... there is a shot of an AT-AT shooting at troops fleeing [5.01 REF VID]. Perhaps to see the Shuttle with tie escorst in the far distance in this shot and they could be travelling from the right to the left and down in formation and then turning towards still in the distance with escort ties departing up this should be only very subtle though. The final shot of the shuttle only should be after the line "distance to power generators" it then cuts to the scene of the AT-AT shooting the snow speeder... [5.11 REF VID] Basically the shuttle should pass behind the AT-AT but fairly medium distance and carry on off screen to the left and this would make it look as if the snow speeder was attempting to pursue the shuttle only to be shot down by the AT-AT as it turns to chase. I think this would up the ante because the general has it in mind that he has already told vader to make his approach and the shield would be down in momments.
We will then have the new footage of the destroyed power generator model which presumably will cut to han and leia falling over after the explosion then running through the tunnel past c3po.
[5.55 REF VID] Immediatley after this, take the added docking bay executor scene from the ESB SE 2004 For Vader returning to the Executor from Bespin (which is being omitted I hope) and composite as foreground element only the Shuttle when Landed shot of vader walking off the shuttle. The background matte could be of the smoldering shield generator model Adywan has meticulously put together or destroyed for that matter ; with perhaps some snow troopers and a cut and paste AT-ST from ROTJ to come into frame as the camera pans and Vader walks down the ramp onto Hoth the best AT-ST could be the one that Han radio's in from to finally get into the ROTJ shield generator for the death star on Endor. I say put an AT-ST in the background only because we saw it marching ahead earlier when luke hits the ground The AT-ST Should shoot after it's head turns to either blow open a hole or door if that footage could be used. Finally Resume the footage of the rebel base invasion with Vader and the snow troopers coming in after the explosion. The Docking bay footage should probably flip so it looks like new footage but the feet of the AT-ST are not visible so some rocks or somthing might be needed to hide that in the composite....or whatever would work best. I feel these additions if they would work would truly bring Vader into the Battle on Hoth because for me it's a big gripe and I have thought long and hard about a way of possibly Bringing Vader Down to Hoth instead of just appearing out of nowhere. Sorry but do not have the skill to do this video compositing but if anyone wants to give this idea a try then great! Or thinks they have a better way to do it?
Even if there is another way to bring Vader down without adding too much it would be good to see.
I hope Vaders shuttle leaving Bespin flying towards the executor stays in this edit of ESB because of Continuity also.
I cannot wait to see the final version of the hoth battle even if none of this stuff happens to be in the final edit. Just hoping it will be equivalent to what Adywan did with battle of Yavin
Welcome Ronster. While that is an interesting idea it's something that doesn't need to happen on screen. We don't need any visual indication of how vader landed on hoth. Everything we needed to know was explained by veers when he says to Vaders hologram," the shield will be down in moments. You may start your landing", so we know he will be on his way at this point in the battle. A problem with the prequels, and many films today for that matter, is that they feel the need to talk down to the audience and explain everything in detail, whether it be in the script or visually. And this was a huge problem when it came to the special editions with the added shots of vaders shuttle leaving bespin and docking with the Executor. Not only did it completely break the whole flow of the original scene, we just really didn't need to be shown exactly how he got there especially when he originally said "bring my shuttle". So i won't be adding any form of Imperial landing craft into any of the Hoth scenes.
Ziz said:
Watching the OT on Spike right now, something I always noticed but don't remember seeing come up in the thread (although with almost 1000 pages, it's hard to go back and check for it)...
When Vader chokes Needa then turns to Piett for an update, at the end of the scene when Piett says "Alert all commands - deploy the fleet", for some reason the sound mix on that line sounds like Ben Burtt left the "comm link filter" on - it doesn't sound like Piett is there saying it but saying it over a comm channel.
Having listened to that scene again i can't see any problem with the audio apart from its slightly echoing on set audio.
aalenfae said:
I think if anything about that scene needs to be corrected/updated/fixed, it would just be the matte paintings of the chasm. They always looked a little too... papery.
On the same subject as changes, I made up a little video of suggestions for Adywan the other month, if anybody cares to take a look:
Again, some interesting ideas. I have already added a slight motion blur to the AT-AT's and have added the guns recoiling when they fire. But the one gun that isn't firing i haven't added anything to that because there is someone working on it so its probably supposed to be out of action until later on in the battle. Having vader in shot as the falcon exist the hangar wouldn't work because the falcon is flying pretty close to the ground and would have flattened vader but also he would have had to shot across the hangar at impossible speed to have moved from just entering in one shot to being on the other side in the next. Having the AT-ATs in the shot as Luke turns around would work also as that is actually a mountain range and the battlefield was a flat glacier.
sans_fi said:
I must say I prefer Vaders helmet moving than the weird effect of the head of Darth Vader now... It looks like a cardboard head, like that scene of Bruce Lee
http://youtu.be/1bAdMrMxMm0?t=1m1s
I'm sorry, but you can't say it looks anything like that.